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How does this compare with, say, Matrix with P2P support?

by ashton314 5y ago

hilbert42 5y ago
Right, I wish I knew. Trying to get a decent side-by-side comparison of Tox, Jami, etc., etc. is like trying to find hens' teeth. Surely, there must be someone out there in user-land who's actually done the legwork. The reason I want more input on this has to do with my past experience of Tox's poor connection reliability and I want to know what to do about it—or find out whether it's actually fixable or not, or whether I should settle on another P2P program such as Jami which works in a similar way, etc. For me, connection reliability is more important than security and I'd like to settle on the program with the most reliable connection service (I'd prefer the NSA didn't listen to what I've to say but it's the Googles and Facebooks of this world that I'm really trying to avoid). The last time I used Tox in a serious way was several years ago when I had relatives visiting from overseas and I refused to use Facebook, Google etc. When I really needed it, Tox didn't work or dropped out too often to the point where it was unusable much to others and my annoyance — and only to be told 'why the hell don't you use what everyone else uses, social media, Facebook etc. — then there'd be no problem?' It's hard to argue with that when one has others breathing down one's neck to organize things locally. It seems to me we need to sort this out with some decent real-world testing/runoffs. And for this we need the input of many users/many setups to get good comparative data. As I said elsewhere, I thought the Tox project was dead as updates were so few and far between, so support and the user-base size is also important. If we can't get to the bottom of the P2P problem then it seems that I may have fall back to Jitsi (so far that always seems to work but I'd prefer not to use it for obvious reasons).

4 ms·

How does this compare with, say, Matrix with P2P support?

by ashton314 5y ago

How does this compare with, say, Matrix with P2P support?

hilbert42 5y ago
Right, I wish I knew. Trying to get a decent side-by-side comparison of Tox, Jami, etc., etc. is like trying to find hens' teeth. Surely, there must be someone out there in user-land who's actually done the legwork. The reason I want more input on this has to do with my past experience of Tox's poor connection reliability and I want to know what to do about it—or find out whether it's actually fixable or not, or whether I should settle on another P2P program such as Jami which works in a similar way, etc. For me, connection reliability is more important than security and I'd like to settle on the program with the most reliable connection service (I'd prefer the NSA didn't listen to what I've to say but it's the Googles and Facebooks of this world that I'm really trying to avoid). The last time I used Tox in a serious way was several years ago when I had relatives visiting from overseas and I refused to use Facebook, Google etc. When I really needed it, Tox didn't work or dropped out too often to the point where it was unusable much to others and my annoyance — and only to be told 'why the hell don't you use what everyone else uses, social media, Facebook etc. — then there'd be no problem?' It's hard to argue with that when one has others breathing down one's neck to organize things locally. It seems to me we need to sort this out with some decent real-world testing/runoffs. And for this we need the input of many users/many setups to get good comparative data. As I said elsewhere, I thought the Tox project was dead as updates were so few and far between, so support and the user-base size is also important. If we can't get to the bottom of the P2P problem then it seems that I may have fall back to Jitsi (so far that always seems to work but I'd prefer not to use it for obvious reasons).