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Towards Learning to Play Piano with Dexterous Hands and Touch

39 points by ofou 5y ago

CyberDildonics 5y ago
I think this is about robotics, but who is editing these titles? I don't understand why no one would step in and clean up the nonsense instead of letting obviously wrong direct translation stand.
- zuminator 5y ago
  What do you mean? That's the name of the actual paper, which is written in standard native-quality English. Here's the concluding paragraph: "In this paper, we proposed the first reinforcement learning based approach for learning to play piano with robot hands equipped with tactile sensors. Since the task is new to reinforcement learning, we formalize the task as MDP and detail about specific designs for all the components of the MDP. With off-the-shelf reinforcement learning algorithms, we can train a robot hand to play the piano with correct notes, velocity and fingering. We also carefully study core factors in the whole system and provide useful information for future research on this track." [MDP = Markov Decision Process]
  - ghusbands 5y ago
    This quoted part is not native-quality English: "as MDP and detail about specific designs" There are plenty of other examples in the paper. I would assume it has been automatically translated and then edited for clarity, though it could just be written by someone for whom English is a secondary language.
kgarten 5y ago
Damn .. Hoped to find sth. About motor skill learning in the paper. On a tangent, huge fan of passive haptic learning and the use of Soft robotics for learning. https://www.vogue.cs.titech.ac.jp/projects/digitalsports/robotic-glove https://www.vogue.cs.titech.ac.jp/projects/digitalsports/rob... https://www.gvu.gatech.edu/research/projects/passive-haptic-learning-learn-type-or-play-piano-without-attention-using-wearables https://www.gvu.gatech.edu/research/projects/passive-haptic-... Shameless self plug: we used artificial muscles to improve beginner percussion training https://kaikunze.de/papers/pdf/goto2020accelerating.pdf https://kaikunze.de/papers/pdf/goto2020accelerating.pdf

39 points by ofou 5y ago

I think this is about robotics, but who is editing these titles? I don't understand why no one would step in and clean up the nonsense instead of letting obviously wrong direct translation stand.

zuminator 5y ago
What do you mean? That's the name of the actual paper, which is written in standard native-quality English. Here's the concluding paragraph: "In this paper, we proposed the first reinforcement learning based approach for learning to play piano with robot hands equipped with tactile sensors. Since the task is new to reinforcement learning, we formalize the task as MDP and detail about specific designs for all the components of the MDP. With off-the-shelf reinforcement learning algorithms, we can train a robot hand to play the piano with correct notes, velocity and fingering. We also carefully study core factors in the whole system and provide useful information for future research on this track." [MDP = Markov Decision Process]
- ghusbands 5y ago
  This quoted part is not native-quality English: "as MDP and detail about specific designs" There are plenty of other examples in the paper. I would assume it has been automatically translated and then edited for clarity, though it could just be written by someone for whom English is a secondary language.

kgarten 5y ago

Damn .. Hoped to find sth. About motor skill learning in the paper. On a tangent, huge fan of passive haptic learning and the use of Soft robotics for learning. https://www.vogue.cs.titech.ac.jp/projects/digitalsports/robotic-glove https://www.vogue.cs.titech.ac.jp/projects/digitalsports/rob... https://www.gvu.gatech.edu/research/projects/passive-haptic-learning-learn-type-or-play-piano-without-attention-using-wearables https://www.gvu.gatech.edu/research/projects/passive-haptic-... Shameless self plug: we used artificial muscles to improve beginner percussion training https://kaikunze.de/papers/pdf/goto2020accelerating.pdf https://kaikunze.de/papers/pdf/goto2020accelerating.pdf