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Sorry for being pedantic, but you can absolutely change the ingredients of a cigarette. There's a ton besides the tobacco. And you can breed different strains

Sorry for being pedantic, but you can absolutely change the ingredients of a cigarette. There's a ton besides the tobacco. And you can breed different strains of tobacco to have more or less of some chemical.

hunterb123 5y ago
My point was a cig always causes cancer because it burns tobacco, so you need a banner to warn users. A social media behemoth does not need to use doom scrolling or private algorithms to be a social media site.
- asdff 5y ago
  My nintendo DS from 15 years ago gave me an eye strain warning every time i started it up and it doesn't always cause eye strain, only misuse does and I know that thanks to the informative banner.
  - jmcgough 5y ago
    I love that Nintendo is very aware of the potential negative effects of their products and games and tries to inform users / mitigate. Even when it comes to encouraging positive play between users - in the new Pokemon MOBA (games known for their toxicity) there's no text chat, only communication with a few emotes you can show. Some of their decisions make for arguably worse games for "hardcore" gamers (like the way they rank users in smash, or how they focus on more casual-style in-game tournaments or make matchmaking harder) but they sacrifice that in favor of a more positive general experience, especially important since children play their games.
    - asdff 5y ago
      I thought pictochat was great too and a lot of fun. They could have opened it up and made it into a global network, but the beauty is that it operates on local networks so it was more of an in person social network, plus no way for advertisers and commercial companies to break in.
      - hunterb123 5y ago
        I remember pictochat, so many dicks and graphic drawings sent to each other in JR high. The sensitive world today would have had a field day with that. This part of the thread went pretty off topic but I like it! Pictochat was certainly ahead of its time, wish we stuck to things like that.
- mpalczewski 5y ago
  Smoking was happening in the 1800's. Lung Cancer rates didn't shoot up until the 1900's, it was rather rare. This is around the same time that tobacco companies figured out they could soak tobacco in ammonia. This allowed for inhalation into the lungs (e.g. it sucks to inflate a cigar deep into your lungs). It also made the cigarettes much more addicting, so people smoked way more and inhaled into the lungs. That's about when lung cancer stopped being so rare. Yes, cig's cause cancer, but to say that it's because it burns tobacco is missing a big part of the story.
  - sumedh 5y ago
    > Smoking was happening in the 1800's. Lung Cancer rates didn't shoot up until the 1900's, Were they even looking for lung cancers when people died back in 1800's?
  - asdff 5y ago
    That was probably because smoking was not common outside of wealthy men during the 1800s. It was not widespread at all among most of the public until after the world wars thanks to mass produced cigarettes (which weren't around until the late 1800s) now being added to rations. Smoking rate after WWI increased 350% and was high ever since. US government didn't stop issuing cigarette rations to soldiers until 1975. Lung cancer rates have followed lock step with smoking rates, its not really that smoking suddenly became harmful. It always was, it just wasn't common to smoke and even among those who did back in those days, it wasn't common to smoke very much at all and certainly not around the clock (kinda like hookah users today).

hunterb123 5y ago

My point was a cig always causes cancer because it burns tobacco, so you need a banner to warn users. A social media behemoth does not need to use doom scrolling or private algorithms to be a social media site.

asdff 5y ago
My nintendo DS from 15 years ago gave me an eye strain warning every time i started it up and it doesn't always cause eye strain, only misuse does and I know that thanks to the informative banner.
- jmcgough 5y ago
  I love that Nintendo is very aware of the potential negative effects of their products and games and tries to inform users / mitigate. Even when it comes to encouraging positive play between users - in the new Pokemon MOBA (games known for their toxicity) there's no text chat, only communication with a few emotes you can show. Some of their decisions make for arguably worse games for "hardcore" gamers (like the way they rank users in smash, or how they focus on more casual-style in-game tournaments or make matchmaking harder) but they sacrifice that in favor of a more positive general experience, especially important since children play their games.
  - asdff 5y ago
    I thought pictochat was great too and a lot of fun. They could have opened it up and made it into a global network, but the beauty is that it operates on local networks so it was more of an in person social network, plus no way for advertisers and commercial companies to break in.
    - hunterb123 5y ago
      I remember pictochat, so many dicks and graphic drawings sent to each other in JR high. The sensitive world today would have had a field day with that. This part of the thread went pretty off topic but I like it! Pictochat was certainly ahead of its time, wish we stuck to things like that.
mpalczewski 5y ago
Smoking was happening in the 1800's. Lung Cancer rates didn't shoot up until the 1900's, it was rather rare. This is around the same time that tobacco companies figured out they could soak tobacco in ammonia. This allowed for inhalation into the lungs (e.g. it sucks to inflate a cigar deep into your lungs). It also made the cigarettes much more addicting, so people smoked way more and inhaled into the lungs. That's about when lung cancer stopped being so rare. Yes, cig's cause cancer, but to say that it's because it burns tobacco is missing a big part of the story.
- sumedh 5y ago
  > Smoking was happening in the 1800's. Lung Cancer rates didn't shoot up until the 1900's, Were they even looking for lung cancers when people died back in 1800's?
- asdff 5y ago
  That was probably because smoking was not common outside of wealthy men during the 1800s. It was not widespread at all among most of the public until after the world wars thanks to mass produced cigarettes (which weren't around until the late 1800s) now being added to rations. Smoking rate after WWI increased 350% and was high ever since. US government didn't stop issuing cigarette rations to soldiers until 1975. Lung cancer rates have followed lock step with smoking rates, its not really that smoking suddenly became harmful. It always was, it just wasn't common to smoke and even among those who did back in those days, it wasn't common to smoke very much at all and certainly not around the clock (kinda like hookah users today).