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> "On Windows, out-of-memory (OOM) situations are responsible for a significant number of the browser and content process crashes reported by our users." You g

> "On Windows, out-of-memory (OOM) situations are responsible for a significant number of the browser and content process crashes reported by our users." You got this wrong, yet again. What causes the memory to run out in the first place? That is what you should be fixing.

MayeulC 5y ago
You seem to assume it comes from the browser. That is not necessarily the case: the user might have launched a demanding game that suddenly increases memory pressure, making Firefox OOM. FF will now more gradually release memory to the OS.
yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
> What causes the memory to run out in the first place? That is what you should be fixing. Either the user opened enough tabs to use memory, or the rest of the system is using too much memory. Neither of those is "fixable"; a browser that randomly closes your tabs or kills other programs is not going to be well received.
- chupasaurus 5y ago
  Or one tab starts leaking memory like crazy after some time (looking at you Jenkins).
mikepurvis 5y ago
Why do computers keep getting more and more memory? 640KB should be enough for everyone, if people would just fix whatever is using up all the memory. /s Not all OOM situations are because of a malfunction or leak.
- cuu508 5y ago
  Let's say you want to have a wallpaper on your 1920x1080 desktop. At 24bpp, that's ~6MB right there.
  - mikepurvis 5y ago
    I've added a sarcasm indicator to my post to clear up any confusion. The point is that there are lots of valid reasons to use an unbounded amount of memory, and it's reasonable to expect unbounded-memory-using applications to have mechanisms which free that memory over time without direct user intervention (eg, manually closing a tab).
cottager2 5y ago
Surely you must admit that even an extremely memory efficient implementation of a set of tabs has a physical limit on how many can be open if they’re all loaded into memory.
kevingadd 5y ago
I have approximately 300 tabs open. How much memory should that use? What's your answer based on?

MayeulC 5y ago

You seem to assume it comes from the browser. That is not necessarily the case: the user might have launched a demanding game that suddenly increases memory pressure, making Firefox OOM. FF will now more gradually release memory to the OS.

yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago

> What causes the memory to run out in the first place? That is what you should be fixing. Either the user opened enough tabs to use memory, or the rest of the system is using too much memory. Neither of those is "fixable"; a browser that randomly closes your tabs or kills other programs is not going to be well received.

chupasaurus 5y ago
Or one tab starts leaking memory like crazy after some time (looking at you Jenkins).

mikepurvis 5y ago

Why do computers keep getting more and more memory? 640KB should be enough for everyone, if people would just fix whatever is using up all the memory. /s Not all OOM situations are because of a malfunction or leak.

cuu508 5y ago
Let's say you want to have a wallpaper on your 1920x1080 desktop. At 24bpp, that's ~6MB right there.
- mikepurvis 5y ago
  I've added a sarcasm indicator to my post to clear up any confusion. The point is that there are lots of valid reasons to use an unbounded amount of memory, and it's reasonable to expect unbounded-memory-using applications to have mechanisms which free that memory over time without direct user intervention (eg, manually closing a tab).

cottager2 5y ago

Surely you must admit that even an extremely memory efficient implementation of a set of tabs has a physical limit on how many can be open if they’re all loaded into memory.

kevingadd 5y ago

I have approximately 300 tabs open. How much memory should that use? What's your answer based on?