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Well, yes and no. While as a PM (or IC) she'd be primarily working on a scoped area of work, the reality is also that she likely didn't come to learn all this

Well, yes and no. While as a PM (or IC) she'd be primarily working on a scoped area of work, the reality is also that she likely didn't come to learn all this on her own. At nearly any large tech company it's pretty easy to get in touch with someone on another team and learn more about their work, etc. The fact that she's been able to get all this context and significant supporting documentation points to her not having gone about this totally solo (despite her claims). There's also something to note about things being intentionally ambiguous-- that's by design to prevent most ICs from putting together broader context. But it's not clear that it would prevent a highly motivated employee from amassing broader context. Like I said before, with even a bit more context other ICs can be looped in to fill in the gaps. You're giving Facebook far too much credit here.

aardvarkr 5y ago
FYI the lady was the Product Manager and ran the entire Civic Engagement group. She's not just a project manager working on a team of devs.
- nitrogen 5y ago
  Every small engineering team I have worked on had its own product manager.
- alfalfasprout 5y ago
  Right, but my point is that even if she ran the entire civic engagement group it's naive to think she couldn't find out more about what's going on in other orgs if properly motivated. She'd have to go out of her way to do it and do a fair amount of digging but it's far from impossible.
- shmatt 5y ago
  >FYI the lady was the Product Manager and ran the entire Civic Engagement group. She's not just a project manager working on a team of devs. See, i'd just like to hear more of this * How many direct reports did she have? * What was her official FB level? * What level of management were in meetings with her? * Who did she directly report into? All really good context most people are ignoring

aardvarkr 5y ago

FYI the lady was the Product Manager and ran the entire Civic Engagement group. She's not just a project manager working on a team of devs.

nitrogen 5y ago
Every small engineering team I have worked on had its own product manager.
alfalfasprout 5y ago
Right, but my point is that even if she ran the entire civic engagement group it's naive to think she couldn't find out more about what's going on in other orgs if properly motivated. She'd have to go out of her way to do it and do a fair amount of digging but it's far from impossible.
shmatt 5y ago
>FYI the lady was the Product Manager and ran the entire Civic Engagement group. She's not just a project manager working on a team of devs. See, i'd just like to hear more of this * How many direct reports did she have? * What was her official FB level? * What level of management were in meetings with her? * Who did she directly report into? All really good context most people are ignoring