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What I don't understand is how this is different than Nike making shoes with child labor overseas in the "global south", etc. That harms children, for profit.
by flandish 5y ago
What I don't understand is how this is different than Nike making shoes with child labor overseas in the "global south", etc. That harms children, for profit.
Facebook is a for profit organization. This is the rule with organizations like this. If given enough time, size, and lack of shielding, any corporation will eventually cause harm in some way.
We seem to have less focus on "Nike whistleblowers" or similar, you get the idea.
- robbrown451 5y agoIt's a very different issue. One important difference is that the children being harmed here are American children. Rightly or wrongly, it raises the priority since American parents are seeing their own children harmed. I don't want to defend Nike, but still, the fact that people are poor enough to send their kids off to factories to make shoes isn't Nike's fault. But again, very different issue. Worthwhile to think about, but I don't think it should detract from this one.
- JohnFen 5y agoNike has received (and continues to receive) a lot of attention about that sort of thing for decades. But, on a larger level, I see several comments that seem to be implying that talking about the wrongdoing of one company isn't valid unless we talk about the wrongdoing of all companies at the same time. I think that argument is faulty. If the argument were good, then it wouldn't be possible to talk about any company's wrongdoing because you'll always be leaving others out of the conversation.
- flandish 5y agoI understand where you are coming from - I was speaking more to the "meta" understanding of how this is a surprise to some folks (in gov).
- 8note 5y agoI don't think the focus on Nike has resulted in the whole industry being fixed. Companies are case studies of a problem, any single one is insufficient information for coming up with solutions.
- iabacu 5y agoThis is not about children, though, it's about investors. If Nike makes a material claim to investors (e.g. that children labor is not used), but the claim is revealed to be knowingly false, then that's securities fraud.