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I went to read the post about "WinGet" and it was also very nasty. https://keivan.io/the-day-appget-died/ https://keivan.io/the-day-appget-died/

ffhhj 5y ago
That's why we must always give these companies a consulting quote that covers much more than flight tickets and expenses. Make sure they pay up front, otherwise it's some project manager's empty promise.
fmakunbound 5y ago
What strikes me is how wealthy corporations act like such cheapskates. The bring the guy in for a job interview, suck the rest of the vision for the tool out of him, ghost him for a few months, release a copycat product and even stiff him on travel reimbursement.
- Dracophoenix 5y ago
  Reminds me of this old bit from Silicon Valley: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JlwwVuSUUfc https://youtube.com/watch?v=JlwwVuSUUfc
easton 5y ago
I don't really understand why they stiffed him (the only thing I can think of is that he's the core maintainer of Sonarr which might make him legally radioactive, but you should tell him), but what I don't understand is why they even called him in the first place. There's about a billion package managers for desktop operating systems and programming languages (shoot, Microsoft runs five or six), and the ups and downs are known by anyone who's used one for more than an hour (shoot, look at the winget issue tracker, there's still active tickets that were filed in the first week). There's no reason to play the wine and dine game, there's no secret sauce anyone really needs to know.
- 908B64B197 5y ago
  That's because they wanted to hire him as a PM, not buy his package manager. He failed the interview. He's the only one who talked about "acqui-hire". Microsoft never talked about acquiring anything. There was nothing to acquire.
908B64B197 5y ago
This story again? I once interviewed a smart guy from a certain UC across the bay. Still undergrad, he played a lot with Python and wished he could have something similar to pip when doing C/C++. So he wrote himself a "package manager" that could fetch binaries, place header files correctly and add them to his build. Neat little project. That's basically what this guy did. It reads a YAML file and exec() whatever build instruction is in there. The CS102 guy I hired could do it as well. Keivan was brought in by Microsoft for an interview and he didn't get the job. He kept talking about how "he could have patented this" or how it was an "acquihire" but there's nothing new to acquire in there! But hey, he flunked his interview and got a lot of eyes on his startup thanks to some well placed clickbait on HN...

ffhhj 5y ago

That's why we must always give these companies a consulting quote that covers much more than flight tickets and expenses. Make sure they pay up front, otherwise it's some project manager's empty promise.

fmakunbound 5y ago

What strikes me is how wealthy corporations act like such cheapskates. The bring the guy in for a job interview, suck the rest of the vision for the tool out of him, ghost him for a few months, release a copycat product and even stiff him on travel reimbursement.

Dracophoenix 5y ago
Reminds me of this old bit from Silicon Valley: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JlwwVuSUUfc https://youtube.com/watch?v=JlwwVuSUUfc

easton 5y ago

I don't really understand why they stiffed him (the only thing I can think of is that he's the core maintainer of Sonarr which might make him legally radioactive, but you should tell him), but what I don't understand is why they even called him in the first place. There's about a billion package managers for desktop operating systems and programming languages (shoot, Microsoft runs five or six), and the ups and downs are known by anyone who's used one for more than an hour (shoot, look at the winget issue tracker, there's still active tickets that were filed in the first week). There's no reason to play the wine and dine game, there's no secret sauce anyone really needs to know.

908B64B197 5y ago
That's because they wanted to hire him as a PM, not buy his package manager. He failed the interview. He's the only one who talked about "acqui-hire". Microsoft never talked about acquiring anything. There was nothing to acquire.

908B64B197 5y ago

This story again? I once interviewed a smart guy from a certain UC across the bay. Still undergrad, he played a lot with Python and wished he could have something similar to pip when doing C/C++. So he wrote himself a "package manager" that could fetch binaries, place header files correctly and add them to his build. Neat little project. That's basically what this guy did. It reads a YAML file and exec() whatever build instruction is in there. The CS102 guy I hired could do it as well. Keivan was brought in by Microsoft for an interview and he didn't get the job. He kept talking about how "he could have patented this" or how it was an "acquihire" but there's nothing new to acquire in there! But hey, he flunked his interview and got a lot of eyes on his startup thanks to some well placed clickbait on HN...