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The recurring argument she makes is just that stop using algorithmic content discovery that optimizes engagement because it correlates so strongly with extremis

The recurring argument she makes is just that stop using algorithmic content discovery that optimizes engagement because it correlates so strongly with extremism. You could almost get rid of all moderation and just go to chronological and it would improve the public health dimension.

suzzer99 5y ago
I wish there was an option to make my Facebook feed chronological like there is with twitter.
- quadrangle 5y ago
  There used to be that option. First it was default, then they switched it to opt-in, then they switched it to opt-in-repeatedly (every visit would default back to algorithm-curated), then they finally killed the chronological option.
tqi 5y ago
"stop using algorithmic content discovery that optimizes engagement because it correlates so strongly with extremism" Is there a meaningful difference between what Newsfeed is doing vs what the news director at say Fox News, MSNBC, et al?
- wffurr 5y ago
  Is there a meaningful difference between this one terrible thing and these other terrible things? I would say both are bad and should stop.
- wolfram74 5y ago
  whataboutism aside, the ehrlich quote "To err is human, but to really foul things up you need a computer". is salient, the news channels do eventually get okayed by human editors. Another salient point is how personalized the content can get with algorithms at the helm, everybody has a button that will set them off. Mass broad cast media is going to be further from the mark than something machine learning found. [0] https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=280241 https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=280241
  - tqi 5y ago
    My intention was less "what about this other bad thing" and more do we have an objective/consensus answer on what content should be promoted, or is it just who/what is doing the promotion.
    - wolfram74 5y ago
      The recurring claim is that going back to an unpromoted, chronological listing as it is a good concession to how it's literally mathematically impossible to algorithmically determine the truthfulness of statements.

suzzer99 5y ago

I wish there was an option to make my Facebook feed chronological like there is with twitter.

quadrangle 5y ago
There used to be that option. First it was default, then they switched it to opt-in, then they switched it to opt-in-repeatedly (every visit would default back to algorithm-curated), then they finally killed the chronological option.

tqi 5y ago

"stop using algorithmic content discovery that optimizes engagement because it correlates so strongly with extremism" Is there a meaningful difference between what Newsfeed is doing vs what the news director at say Fox News, MSNBC, et al?

wffurr 5y ago
Is there a meaningful difference between this one terrible thing and these other terrible things? I would say both are bad and should stop.
wolfram74 5y ago
whataboutism aside, the ehrlich quote "To err is human, but to really foul things up you need a computer". is salient, the news channels do eventually get okayed by human editors. Another salient point is how personalized the content can get with algorithms at the helm, everybody has a button that will set them off. Mass broad cast media is going to be further from the mark than something machine learning found. [0] https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=280241 https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=280241
- tqi 5y ago
  My intention was less "what about this other bad thing" and more do we have an objective/consensus answer on what content should be promoted, or is it just who/what is doing the promotion.
  - wolfram74 5y ago
    The recurring claim is that going back to an unpromoted, chronological listing as it is a good concession to how it's literally mathematically impossible to algorithmically determine the truthfulness of statements.