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Having multiple things actively listening for "Hey Siri" seems like a problem you've created, honestly. I have my phone set to only engage Siri with the long b

Having multiple things actively listening for "Hey Siri" seems like a problem you've created, honestly. I have my phone set to only engage Siri with the long button press. It saves a lot of trouble.

robmccoll 5y ago
Blaming the user for the lack of simple coordination between devices when they buy into your ecosystem across multiple devices and attempt to use the advertised features doesn't seem like a great product strategy.
- oneplane 5y ago
  Is it really blame if it's simply a technical deficiency? I imagine that if I put 10 iPhones on a desk and say "Hey Siri", that wouldn't work out too well. Doesn't mean we have to start "blaming" people, companies and things.
  - tebruno99 5y ago
    The phone and watch are advertised as intergraded with each other so this does not happen. Just like answering FaceTime on one device is supposed to stop the others from ringing. It is a feature of the watch and iPhone to figure out which should be listening and it is broken. To the article’s point, Amazon’s has no problem Determining which should answer a question if they are all the same account piled on your desk.
    - birdyrooster 5y ago
      And yet there are alarms set on the watch which are separate from alarms set on the paired phone. It’s really madness.
  - asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
    We are not talking about ten phones on a desk. We are talking about a phone and a watch, which are explicitly designed to and advertised as working together. Surely you see the distinction between your thought experiment and the actual scenario in question?
    - oneplane 5y ago
      Surely you understand that the scenario is merely an attempt at illustrating the difference between blame and technical deficiency.
- ubermonkey 5y ago
  The user understands this limitation, and rather than lighting a candle is cursing the darkness. It's redundant and counterproductive to have multiple devices listening for the code phrase.
Barrin92 5y ago
the entire point of these assistant technologies is supposed to be that they seamlessly integrate with the environment. If you have to do long button presses or avoid this or that you can just open Spotify yourself and click play. Given that the benefit you get out of this stuff is likely marginal to begin with failing in 5% of cases is already way too much. At this point to me it seems like most of it is basically toy technology without any real benefit unless you're visually impaired or unable to use your hands or something. People went from voice messaging to texting with other people because tactile inputs are often faster, so it's always puzzled me what the point is of talking to machines who can't even understand things properly half the time.
- ubermonkey 5y ago
  >the entire point of these assistant technologies is supposed to be that they seamlessly integrate with the environment No. The "entire point" is to provide an easier way to do some interactions. On this point, they work super well. They're just not magic or perfect. However, it definitely IS useful to state the point that way, because it makes it easier to argue that they're pointless toy technologies, thereby allowing you to feel superior.
mikestew 5y ago
Multiple devices are supposed to coordinate amongst themselves to decide who takes the request: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208472 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208472

Having multiple things actively listening for "Hey Siri" seems like a problem you've created, honestly. I have my phone set to only engage Siri with the long button press. It saves a lot of trouble.

robmccoll 5y ago

Blaming the user for the lack of simple coordination between devices when they buy into your ecosystem across multiple devices and attempt to use the advertised features doesn't seem like a great product strategy.

oneplane 5y ago
Is it really blame if it's simply a technical deficiency? I imagine that if I put 10 iPhones on a desk and say "Hey Siri", that wouldn't work out too well. Doesn't mean we have to start "blaming" people, companies and things.
- tebruno99 5y ago
  The phone and watch are advertised as intergraded with each other so this does not happen. Just like answering FaceTime on one device is supposed to stop the others from ringing. It is a feature of the watch and iPhone to figure out which should be listening and it is broken. To the article’s point, Amazon’s has no problem Determining which should answer a question if they are all the same account piled on your desk.
  - birdyrooster 5y ago
    And yet there are alarms set on the watch which are separate from alarms set on the paired phone. It’s really madness.
- asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
  We are not talking about ten phones on a desk. We are talking about a phone and a watch, which are explicitly designed to and advertised as working together. Surely you see the distinction between your thought experiment and the actual scenario in question?
  - oneplane 5y ago
    Surely you understand that the scenario is merely an attempt at illustrating the difference between blame and technical deficiency.
ubermonkey 5y ago
The user understands this limitation, and rather than lighting a candle is cursing the darkness. It's redundant and counterproductive to have multiple devices listening for the code phrase.

Barrin92 5y ago

the entire point of these assistant technologies is supposed to be that they seamlessly integrate with the environment. If you have to do long button presses or avoid this or that you can just open Spotify yourself and click play. Given that the benefit you get out of this stuff is likely marginal to begin with failing in 5% of cases is already way too much. At this point to me it seems like most of it is basically toy technology without any real benefit unless you're visually impaired or unable to use your hands or something. People went from voice messaging to texting with other people because tactile inputs are often faster, so it's always puzzled me what the point is of talking to machines who can't even understand things properly half the time.

ubermonkey 5y ago
>the entire point of these assistant technologies is supposed to be that they seamlessly integrate with the environment No. The "entire point" is to provide an easier way to do some interactions. On this point, they work super well. They're just not magic or perfect. However, it definitely IS useful to state the point that way, because it makes it easier to argue that they're pointless toy technologies, thereby allowing you to feel superior.

mikestew 5y ago

Multiple devices are supposed to coordinate amongst themselves to decide who takes the request: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208472 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208472