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https://hurl.dev/docs/installation.html https://hurl.dev/docs/installation.html > Precompiled binary is available at hurl-1.3.1-x86_64-linux.tar.gz https://github.com/Orange-OpenSource/hurl/releases/download/1.3.1/hurl-1.3.1-x86_64-linux.tar.gz https://github.com/Orange-OpenSource/hurl/releases/download/... > For Debian / Ubuntu, Hurl can be installed using a binary .deb file provided in each Hurl release. > hurl-bin package for Arch Linux and derived distros. > An installer is available at hurl-1.3.1-win64-installer.exe Just glancing at a few files, main.rs is already over 500 lines, which means shell would be impractical. C is a very difficult language to learn and to use correctly, so in the long-term there will be more Rust (and Go, and Python) programmers than C programmers. I think that is a good reason for projects to choose other languages. In fact, one might equally ask why it wasn't written in Python - Python is safer than C, far easier, and performance doesn't sound critical for an HTTP debugger meant to be used interactively by a human. We're probably already far past the point of "There are more competent Python programmers than competent C programmers."

lpcvoid 5y ago
>We're probably already far past the point of "There are more competent Python programmers than competent C programmers." Maybe this is the point where we need to start thinking about where we went wrong? I know that nobody cares about performance anymore, but if anybody is really thinking about Python as a replacement for C then that makes me sad.
- DandyDev 5y ago
  I don't think the claim is that Python is a good replacement for C. But there are probably more (business) problems for which Python is the right tool to solve it then problems for which C is the right tool. C is also a lot harder than Python to learn. So for these reasons there are more Python programmers than C programmers. For some subset of problems for which C is a good tool, Rust is a good alternative, arguably with less foot guns. For some other problems that are solved with C, Golang is a good alternative. So in the end C is losing marketshare because of all these reasons.
- nicoburns 5y ago
  I think the success of Go and Rust show that lots of people care about performance. But it has to come second to correctness and safety/security, and C makes achieving those things very difficult compared to other languages.
jicea 5y ago
As a matter of fact, our first implementation of Hurl was written in Python. We switch to Rust because: - we're a 30 developper team with Linux, Windows and macOs computers. Installing Hurl with Python on Windows boxes was always a challenge and the single drop Rust binary has been a relief for us, - in a CI, we really want to run tests as fast as possible. The Rust version (the actual one) seems a lot faster that our Python prototype (certainly due to our lack of optimisation in our Python code)
- Fiahil 5y ago
  Good choice, Rust is much better than python for concurrency, and that might be of interest in a future release :)

lpcvoid 5y ago

>We're probably already far past the point of "There are more competent Python programmers than competent C programmers." Maybe this is the point where we need to start thinking about where we went wrong? I know that nobody cares about performance anymore, but if anybody is really thinking about Python as a replacement for C then that makes me sad.

DandyDev 5y ago
I don't think the claim is that Python is a good replacement for C. But there are probably more (business) problems for which Python is the right tool to solve it then problems for which C is the right tool. C is also a lot harder than Python to learn. So for these reasons there are more Python programmers than C programmers. For some subset of problems for which C is a good tool, Rust is a good alternative, arguably with less foot guns. For some other problems that are solved with C, Golang is a good alternative. So in the end C is losing marketshare because of all these reasons.
nicoburns 5y ago
I think the success of Go and Rust show that lots of people care about performance. But it has to come second to correctness and safety/security, and C makes achieving those things very difficult compared to other languages.

jicea 5y ago

As a matter of fact, our first implementation of Hurl was written in Python. We switch to Rust because: - we're a 30 developper team with Linux, Windows and macOs computers. Installing Hurl with Python on Windows boxes was always a challenge and the single drop Rust binary has been a relief for us, - in a CI, we really want to run tests as fast as possible. The Rust version (the actual one) seems a lot faster that our Python prototype (certainly due to our lack of optimisation in our Python code)

Fiahil 5y ago
Good choice, Rust is much better than python for concurrency, and that might be of interest in a future release :)