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Why is that? Is there a history of losing photos from Google or iCloud? Buying a flash drive every year means you don't have a backup between the time you take

Why is that? Is there a history of losing photos from Google or iCloud? Buying a flash drive every year means you don't have a backup between the time you take the photo and your next flash drive, and if your risk profile is dropping your phone down the toilet, that sounds like a bad idea to me. edit: leaving my original comment but I realise that the parent called for buying a new drive every year, not just backing up every year - my bad. That said, with this approach you still need to track where your backups are and when they were last backed up. That's definitely going to be more error prone than an automated system.

chrisseaton 5y ago
> Buying a flash drive every year means you don't have a backup between the time you take the photo and your next flash drive They said buy a new one every year. They didn't say only copy to it once a year.
- maccard 5y ago
  Doh, good point. You do still have to keep track of those and where they are, (and when they were last backed up to though).
zz865 5y ago
That is an alternative. However like you say, Google or iCloud - once you've decided its very difficult to change. Also I think most people aren't used to paying for cloud services like photo storage. I'm not sure what happens if you miss a few payments - do you lose your photos? If you die can anyone else get access? Maybe younger generations are more used to that. Incidentally Google Cloud has lost some of my photos.
- maccard 5y ago
  > once you've decided its very difficult to change. Can't speak for iCloud, but getting your data out of Google is pretty straightforward - it's well documented at [0]. How often do you want to do this though? > I'm not sure what happens if you miss a few payments - do you lose your photos? A quick google answers this question [1], if you stop paying and ignore the messages for 2 years your data _may_ be deleted. > If you die can anyone else get access? Again, a quick google says yes, if you set it up [2]. > Incidentally Google Cloud has lost some of my photos. What do you mean by this? Google cloud or Google Photos? I would love to hear more about google photos losing data, I've _never_ heard of it (yet I have witnessed bit rot on physical media, or flash drives just getting lost). [0] https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3024190 https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3024190 [1] https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2736362 https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2736362 [2] https://support.google.com/accounts/troubleshooter/6357590 https://support.google.com/accounts/troubleshooter/6357590
bcrosby95 5y ago
My goal with backups is to not have a single point of failure. Google is a single point of failure. E.g. people get their accounts banned.

chrisseaton 5y ago

> Buying a flash drive every year means you don't have a backup between the time you take the photo and your next flash drive They said buy a new one every year. They didn't say only copy to it once a year.

maccard 5y ago
Doh, good point. You do still have to keep track of those and where they are, (and when they were last backed up to though).

zz865 5y ago

That is an alternative. However like you say, Google or iCloud - once you've decided its very difficult to change. Also I think most people aren't used to paying for cloud services like photo storage. I'm not sure what happens if you miss a few payments - do you lose your photos? If you die can anyone else get access? Maybe younger generations are more used to that. Incidentally Google Cloud has lost some of my photos.

maccard 5y ago
> once you've decided its very difficult to change. Can't speak for iCloud, but getting your data out of Google is pretty straightforward - it's well documented at [0]. How often do you want to do this though? > I'm not sure what happens if you miss a few payments - do you lose your photos? A quick google answers this question [1], if you stop paying and ignore the messages for 2 years your data _may_ be deleted. > If you die can anyone else get access? Again, a quick google says yes, if you set it up [2]. > Incidentally Google Cloud has lost some of my photos. What do you mean by this? Google cloud or Google Photos? I would love to hear more about google photos losing data, I've _never_ heard of it (yet I have witnessed bit rot on physical media, or flash drives just getting lost). [0] https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3024190 https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3024190 [1] https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2736362 https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2736362 [2] https://support.google.com/accounts/troubleshooter/6357590 https://support.google.com/accounts/troubleshooter/6357590

bcrosby95 5y ago

My goal with backups is to not have a single point of failure. Google is a single point of failure. E.g. people get their accounts banned.