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As a physicist primarily working in complex systems and machine learning, I was happy that complex systems were finally getting recognition. From the get-go th
by gandalfgreybeer 5y ago
As a physicist primarily working in complex systems and machine learning, I was happy that complex systems were finally getting recognition.
From the get-go this article was definitely the opposite of my opinions but I wanted to see what other people who obviously don’t like the field don’t like about it. His posturing using a Feynman anecdote left me confused but this quote just made me realize that it’s not complex systems he doesn’t like, it’s the message of the study:
> The other types of Nobel Prizes, especially those for peace and perhaps literature, have a track record featuring lots of terrorists and communists who got their award for something disgusting that was however popular among some leftists or haters of the Western world and similar folks. The late terrorist Arafat had to get one because he was a darling of many such people. Obama got a prize for peace before he did anything of substance and before he started dozens of wars (Trump would have deserved the Nobel Prize in Peace about 50 times more than Obama but for obvious political reasons, he didn't get one). Al Gore got his one-half of a Nobel Prize for a fraudulent PowerPoint presentation about the catastrophic global warming because tons of dishonest leftists loved these kinds of anti-scientific lies.
It is terrible when people who posture themselves as thinking scientifically suddenly throw out all logic when the results don’t fit their narrative.
- left_physics 5y agoI’m also a physicist and (also?) a leftist and I don’t think Motl is particularly wrong in your quote. Exaggerated, but I do think the Nobel prizes have a leftist/progressist tendency, and his examples are not that far off. So in the context of this years prize, I think it’s fair criticism, albeit somewhat carelessly delivered and unrigorous.
- lamontcg 5y agoThere's a neoliberal bias where the peace prize is given out to Kissenger, Obama, Arafat/Perez/Rabin. But if you only gave it out to actually peaceful people there would probably be a massive leftist/progressive slant (which makes no sense to the people in the crowd who think the CCP is leftist, but that is their problem).
- michannne 5y agoI believe it is wiser to assume that bias exists everywhere and to choose whether you accept it or not. You accept it, Motl does not
- bjourne 5y agoPretty obvious that Motl has an axe to grind when he mentions Arafat's peace prize but forgets to mention that he had to share it with two Israeli war criminals. Or that the architect of the Vietnam War, Henry Kissinger, also has received the prize. Certainly, some recipients of the prize have been controversial but it is not true that only leftists' darlings are awarded the prize.