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Nothing new here. 90%+ of people don't understand that either they're suffering depression from isolating from other humans, or in cases of healthcare, symptoms

by rob_c 5y ago

Nothing new here. 90%+ of people don't understand that either they're suffering depression from isolating from other humans, or in cases of healthcare, symptoms don't suddenly appear months after a disease or vaccine for hundreds of people like some episode of House. The 1% of legit cases are being let down because were being dragged down by the same mass hysteria that linked vaccines and autism. Chances are this isn't even covid related but an abnormal autoimmune response I'd bet, but given I'm only trained in statistical analysis I could be wrong. People are always look for something to blame and given the hysteria it's not shocking they are blaming the magical bioweapon that will catch you in your sleep...

stuaxo 5y ago
Covid itself creates an auto immune response. It's estimated one in seven kids will suffer long Covid. The symptoms aren't the symptoms of depression.
- charbonneau 5y ago
  Not peer-reviewed. Only 13.5% of the children completed the 3-month online questionnaire. After 3 months, 30.3% of test-positives and 16.2% of test-negatives had 3+ symptoms. Possible response & recall bias. No control group for other respiratory infections. Did not assess whether symptoms were continuous for the entire 3 months.
  - CryptoPunk 5y ago
    Unfortunately, the media has scared the shit out of people, and they are so convinced that COVID is an extreme threat to every one, that the evidence that confirms their biases requires zero rigor, while the evidence that contradicts the consensus narrative, like ivermectin being an effective prophylaxis, requires extreme rigor. My opinion is that both should require extreme rigor mind you.
    - charbonneau 5y ago
      I downvoted your comment because you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Only rigorologists can advise whether extreme rigor should be required or not.
- bsaul 5y ago
  15% of kids seems like an absurdly high number compared to what i've seen reported in the last 18 month (including delta). Aka : in the immense majority people < 65 are not going to die, and people < 30 barely won't notice anything. 15% of which kids ? the ones that end up in ICU ?
  - Uberphallus 5y ago
    > 15% of which kids ? Of all PCR confirmed cases [0]. Disclaimer: preprint. [0]https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-798316/v1 https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-798316/v1
- rob_c 5y ago
  Again vaccines autism level of jumping on the first alarmist publications. There is no statistically significant evidence for this in large scale analyses. Also, yes of course covid causes an immune response. It's that response that leads to pneumonic symptoms that in the elderly and at risk prove to be fatal. I fail to see how there is any point to be made over stating you get sick and your body reacts. My statement is that the immune system isn't perfect and there are long term conditions caused by it misbehaving, and that we need to understand this more.

by rob_c 5y ago

stuaxo 5y ago

Covid itself creates an auto immune response. It's estimated one in seven kids will suffer long Covid. The symptoms aren't the symptoms of depression.

charbonneau 5y ago
Not peer-reviewed. Only 13.5% of the children completed the 3-month online questionnaire. After 3 months, 30.3% of test-positives and 16.2% of test-negatives had 3+ symptoms. Possible response & recall bias. No control group for other respiratory infections. Did not assess whether symptoms were continuous for the entire 3 months.
- CryptoPunk 5y ago
  Unfortunately, the media has scared the shit out of people, and they are so convinced that COVID is an extreme threat to every one, that the evidence that confirms their biases requires zero rigor, while the evidence that contradicts the consensus narrative, like ivermectin being an effective prophylaxis, requires extreme rigor. My opinion is that both should require extreme rigor mind you.
  - charbonneau 5y ago
    I downvoted your comment because you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Only rigorologists can advise whether extreme rigor should be required or not.
bsaul 5y ago
15% of kids seems like an absurdly high number compared to what i've seen reported in the last 18 month (including delta). Aka : in the immense majority people < 65 are not going to die, and people < 30 barely won't notice anything. 15% of which kids ? the ones that end up in ICU ?
- Uberphallus 5y ago
  > 15% of which kids ? Of all PCR confirmed cases [0]. Disclaimer: preprint. [0]https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-798316/v1 https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-798316/v1
rob_c 5y ago
Again vaccines autism level of jumping on the first alarmist publications. There is no statistically significant evidence for this in large scale analyses. Also, yes of course covid causes an immune response. It's that response that leads to pneumonic symptoms that in the elderly and at risk prove to be fatal. I fail to see how there is any point to be made over stating you get sick and your body reacts. My statement is that the immune system isn't perfect and there are long term conditions caused by it misbehaving, and that we need to understand this more.