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Well, I'm not sure what my sangha member had but she was perfectly healthy, a very active outdoors person, then she got coronavirus, and then was basically bed-

Well, I'm not sure what my sangha member had but she was perfectly healthy, a very active outdoors person, then she got coronavirus, and then was basically bed-ridden for about 10 months. Basically completely weak and chronically fatigued for that period. At least, I am quite sure that her long-term symptoms were due to coronavirus. I'm sure there are many false attributions though, as is bound to happen with such a public disease. For example, I know a lot of people who are convinced they had coronavirus just because they had a cold at this time or that time or whatever.

JesseMReeves 5y ago
Well, chronic fatigue syndrome is out there and has been suspected to be triggered by viral infections for long time. The community actually became quite hopeful when long covid came up that someone would finally listen. Maybe your friend has even found remedies among these long-term sufferers. The people in CFS documentaries look as bedridden as those with long covid to me. So why does long covid get this much attention, while CFS remains obscure?
- soco 5y ago
  If it's really the same thing I see only upsides: once long covid gets addressed due to this much attention, CFS will get addressed too. I call it win-win.
- nicoburns 5y ago
  > So why does long covid get this much attention, while CFS remains obscure? I think it’s probably simply a numbers thing. A lot more people with long focus than other forms of CFS. Hopefully it will get a lot more attention in the present circumstances.
headmelted 5y ago
I’d feel a lot better about this if people stopped making concrete assertions about their hunches however well-informed. For someone in his position to say long covid is overblown and usually something else without any explicit diagnosis for those cases is no more responsible than the “it’s just a flu” brigade have been since this started. Literally everything has become so poisoned by misinformation that we can’t even present real science and reviewed data without feeling the need to represent probabilities as certainties for fear of the conspiracy mob running with it, which it seems like is happening here, and I think is even more dangerous. The rest of us aren’t listening to the whackadoodles on Facebook, but we’re certainly paying attention to credible scientists. I’m sure it’s infuriating for the science community that you have to clear a really high bar of evidence and critical examination of data before making an assertion, whereas Karen or Chad just write whatever stupid and demonstrably impossible nonsense they like on Facebook without a care in the world. The morons don’t have standards. It sucks. But resorting to their tactics, even a little, is a really slippery slope.

JesseMReeves 5y ago

Well, chronic fatigue syndrome is out there and has been suspected to be triggered by viral infections for long time. The community actually became quite hopeful when long covid came up that someone would finally listen. Maybe your friend has even found remedies among these long-term sufferers. The people in CFS documentaries look as bedridden as those with long covid to me. So why does long covid get this much attention, while CFS remains obscure?

soco 5y ago
If it's really the same thing I see only upsides: once long covid gets addressed due to this much attention, CFS will get addressed too. I call it win-win.
nicoburns 5y ago
> So why does long covid get this much attention, while CFS remains obscure? I think it’s probably simply a numbers thing. A lot more people with long focus than other forms of CFS. Hopefully it will get a lot more attention in the present circumstances.

headmelted 5y ago

I’d feel a lot better about this if people stopped making concrete assertions about their hunches however well-informed. For someone in his position to say long covid is overblown and usually something else without any explicit diagnosis for those cases is no more responsible than the “it’s just a flu” brigade have been since this started. Literally everything has become so poisoned by misinformation that we can’t even present real science and reviewed data without feeling the need to represent probabilities as certainties for fear of the conspiracy mob running with it, which it seems like is happening here, and I think is even more dangerous. The rest of us aren’t listening to the whackadoodles on Facebook, but we’re certainly paying attention to credible scientists. I’m sure it’s infuriating for the science community that you have to clear a really high bar of evidence and critical examination of data before making an assertion, whereas Karen or Chad just write whatever stupid and demonstrably impossible nonsense they like on Facebook without a care in the world. The morons don’t have standards. It sucks. But resorting to their tactics, even a little, is a really slippery slope.