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I would be wise for various organisations to start funding education on these chemicals so that a culture of sensible use can grow up around them.

Slippery_John 5y ago
Absolutely. Everybody I know who has done shrooms in a responsible manner (starting small to test tolerances, having a sober friend as spotter) has usually had a great time and never had a bad trip become a tragedy. Also, for the love of god, don't inject shroom tea. It only becomes psychoactive if you digest it, and the spores can actually start to grow in your bloodstream which is definitely a bad time.
- kortex 5y ago
  > Also, for the love of god, don't inject shroom tea. It only becomes psychoactive if you digest it, and the spores can actually start to grow in your bloodstream which is definitely a bad time. I read "inject" as "ingest" at first and was like, wait isn't the point of shrooms/tea ingestion? Important distinction! Yeah don't inject shroom tea (1). Don't inject anything that wasn't GMP prepared (by reputable companies ) (2) 1 -https://www.livescience.com/magic-mushroom-injection-case-report.html https://www.livescience.com/magic-mushroom-injection-case-re... 2 -https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_Compounding_Center_meningitis_outbreak https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_Compounding_Cent...
- cianmm 5y ago
  I’m definitely outside drug culture but do people really just inject stuff that clearly (tea!) isn’t meant for injecting?
  - mekkkkkk 5y ago
    It's fairly common to inject ground up tablets afaik. It's not that strange when considering the very variable quality of other commonly injected drugs. I never heard of injecting something like tea though, but it's not super surprising. Some people just don't care about anything.
    - atatatat 5y ago
      Right, but tablets aren't...fungus.
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  - nsv 5y ago
    There is only 1 reported case that I know of. The person died when the fungus started to grow in their blood, a bad way to go.
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  - jyounker 5y ago
    This isn't drug culture. It is general human stupidity, ignorance, and curiosity in action.
  - Slippery_John 5y ago
    People use horse dewormer to treat covid, it's really not surprising that they'd inject shroom juice. If you want to learn about one case of this, there's a doctor on YouTube that does great narrative style videos of things like this that are very easy to understand with links to sources. He did a great video on this topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmiowRlk8Xc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmiowRlk8Xc An interesting tidbit I learned from that video is that psilocybin isn't known to be active, but your liver breaks it down to psilocin which is.
belorn 5y ago
It would be useful of the general education system would teach how the prescription model work, what criteria are used, why those exist and what a medical professional have to consider when writing out a prescription for a drug. A introduction to drug interactions and health so that individuals can make an informed decision when it comes to ingesting or injecting chemicals into their own body, taught from the perspective of science and medical knowledge.
- hansel_der 5y ago
  well, better hope the ministry of education is not also berated by those guys https://www.propublica.org/article/mckinsey-never-told-the-fda-it-was-working-for-opioid-makers-while-also-working-for-the-agency https://www.propublica.org/article/mckinsey-never-told-the-f...
  - belorn 5y ago
    In this case it might be better that NiH had the support role rather than FDA, especially since education and science seems to have a more similar role than administration and education.

Slippery_John 5y ago

Absolutely. Everybody I know who has done shrooms in a responsible manner (starting small to test tolerances, having a sober friend as spotter) has usually had a great time and never had a bad trip become a tragedy. Also, for the love of god, don't inject shroom tea. It only becomes psychoactive if you digest it, and the spores can actually start to grow in your bloodstream which is definitely a bad time.

kortex 5y ago
> Also, for the love of god, don't inject shroom tea. It only becomes psychoactive if you digest it, and the spores can actually start to grow in your bloodstream which is definitely a bad time. I read "inject" as "ingest" at first and was like, wait isn't the point of shrooms/tea ingestion? Important distinction! Yeah don't inject shroom tea (1). Don't inject anything that wasn't GMP prepared (by reputable companies ) (2) 1 -https://www.livescience.com/magic-mushroom-injection-case-report.html https://www.livescience.com/magic-mushroom-injection-case-re... 2 -https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_Compounding_Center_meningitis_outbreak https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_Compounding_Cent...
cianmm 5y ago
I’m definitely outside drug culture but do people really just inject stuff that clearly (tea!) isn’t meant for injecting?
- mekkkkkk 5y ago
  It's fairly common to inject ground up tablets afaik. It's not that strange when considering the very variable quality of other commonly injected drugs. I never heard of injecting something like tea though, but it's not super surprising. Some people just don't care about anything.
  - atatatat 5y ago
    Right, but tablets aren't...fungus.
    - deleted 5y ago
      [deleted]
- nsv 5y ago
  There is only 1 reported case that I know of. The person died when the fungus started to grow in their blood, a bad way to go.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
- jyounker 5y ago
  This isn't drug culture. It is general human stupidity, ignorance, and curiosity in action.
- Slippery_John 5y ago
  People use horse dewormer to treat covid, it's really not surprising that they'd inject shroom juice. If you want to learn about one case of this, there's a doctor on YouTube that does great narrative style videos of things like this that are very easy to understand with links to sources. He did a great video on this topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmiowRlk8Xc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmiowRlk8Xc An interesting tidbit I learned from that video is that psilocybin isn't known to be active, but your liver breaks it down to psilocin which is.

belorn 5y ago

It would be useful of the general education system would teach how the prescription model work, what criteria are used, why those exist and what a medical professional have to consider when writing out a prescription for a drug. A introduction to drug interactions and health so that individuals can make an informed decision when it comes to ingesting or injecting chemicals into their own body, taught from the perspective of science and medical knowledge.

hansel_der 5y ago
well, better hope the ministry of education is not also berated by those guys https://www.propublica.org/article/mckinsey-never-told-the-fda-it-was-working-for-opioid-makers-while-also-working-for-the-agency https://www.propublica.org/article/mckinsey-never-told-the-f...
- belorn 5y ago
  In this case it might be better that NiH had the support role rather than FDA, especially since education and science seems to have a more similar role than administration and education.