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On the off-chance this isn't sarcasm, Facebook's routing shenanigans slowed down the entire internet. Not to mention that they're a publicly traded company, and
by dTal 5y ago
On the off-chance this isn't sarcasm, Facebook's routing shenanigans slowed down the entire internet. Not to mention that they're a publicly traded company, and one which has gone out of its way to assume an infrastructure role. They don't have a right to privacy here, and we are all owed an explanation.
- ikt 5y agoI don't want an explanation nor do I care, Facebook could disappear tomorrow like all the other networks before it and it wouldn't make a dent in my day.
- oefnak 5y agoDoe you honestly believe that Facebook and its subsidiaries don't have a major impact on the world?
- dTal 5y agoOkay? Why are you commenting here then?
- unethical_ban 5y agoWhether we like it or not, all three platforms are relied upon by hundreds of millions of people and businesses everyday for communication. I'm sure the world would quickly adapt by re-adopting these things called "websites" and "email" but in the meantime, it's highly self-centered to think this "didn't matter".
- tinus_hn 5y agoOr else? You will angrily stamp your foot? Start an e-petition?
- dTal 5y agoThis comment thread is about whether we ought to receive an explanation, not the practical likelihood of getting one.
- oarsinsync 5y ago> Facebook's routing shenanigans slowed down the entire internet This is Hacker News, so the distinction between network performance, server performance and application performance should matter. "The Internet" did not slow down. "The Internet" infact probably had more available capacity as a result of Facebook's outage, as all those bits of outrage and cats ceased to be transferred for the duration. Some applications may have seen performance hits, as a result of poorly thought out dependencies on an external service without graceful failure. Some applications may have seen increased load and suffered due to server resourcing constraints, caused by applications like the above failing to fail gracefully, and instead polling more aggressively. > They don't have a right to privacy here, and we are all owed an explanation Morally / ethically, you're right. The fact that Facebook exists in it's current form tells me that morals and ethics aren't particularly important to the real world.
- dTal 5y agoPerhaps you're unaware that billions of devices attempting to resolve Facebook's unresolvable domains effectively DDOS-ed the DNS system? It most certainly did slow down big chunks of internet which otherwise had nothing to do with Facebook. https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/4/22709123/facebook-outage-down-detector-cloudflare https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/4/22709123/facebook-outage-...
- oarsinsync 5y ago> Some applications may have seen increased load and suffered due to server resourcing constraints, caused by applications like the above failing to fail gracefully, and instead polling more aggressively. I had Cloudflare's woes in mind when I wrote that.
- TheCoelacanth 5y agoSo your point is that it didn't slow down the entire Internet, only the parts of the Internet that use DNS (damn near all of them)?