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The hot coffee lady wound up in hospital with severe burns. McDonald's had a pattern of overheating coffee to disguise poor taste and they continued it knowing

The hot coffee lady wound up in hospital with severe burns. McDonald's had a pattern of overheating coffee to disguise poor taste and they continued it knowing they had seriously injured multiple customers. In this instance a factory worker seems to have have overheard bad language and seen it on graffiti in the bathroom. Pretty different.

XorNot 5y ago
The OP still shouldn't be getting downvoted because they're right: she was only seeking $20,000 to cover medical bills for treatment of severe burns originally, in the course of the case McDonalds decided to go on a media campaign about it against her (and succeeded) but during the course of the case got demolished by the prosecution who conclusively showed that they were aware of the danger, had injured others, and had no justifiable reason for preparing the product the way they did. The final settlement was - as the OP notes - about punitive damages, which they very much deserved. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restau...
Misinf0rmation 5y ago
Ironic! This is exactly like the hot coffee lady. You, and almost everyone else, is going to read Tesla's interpretation and assume the judgement is overboard without ever reading the complaint. Actually, that's exactly what all of the current comments on here are circling towards. Turns out Facebook isn't the only place with rampant misinformation. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.319709/gov.uscourts.cand.319709.57.0_1.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.31...
- ALittleLight 5y ago
  I read the factual allegations and skimmed the rest. Thanks for posting this link. No part of this seems as bad as being scalded and hospitalized. No part of this suggests a harmful or intentional corporate policy, like McDonald's superheating their coffee. The allegation doesn't address a major point from Tesla's blog post, which is that the men involved were black. What I took from Tesla's post is that it was mostly (or entirely) black men referring to each other with racial slurs. The factual allegations make it seem like some factory workers used bad/racist language and racist cartoons. Mid level HR types ignored some complaints. Does Tesla have a policy of ignoring or encouraging racist behavior? Or is it just some people failing to do something about reported harassment?
  - Misinf0rmation 5y ago
    It's tough to say without being there but this isn't the first lawsuit nor is it the first blog post on racism in the factory. https://www.tesla.com/blog/hotbed-misinformation https://www.tesla.com/blog/hotbed-misinformation
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XorNot 5y ago

The OP still shouldn't be getting downvoted because they're right: she was only seeking $20,000 to cover medical bills for treatment of severe burns originally, in the course of the case McDonalds decided to go on a media campaign about it against her (and succeeded) but during the course of the case got demolished by the prosecution who conclusively showed that they were aware of the danger, had injured others, and had no justifiable reason for preparing the product the way they did. The final settlement was - as the OP notes - about punitive damages, which they very much deserved. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restau...

Misinf0rmation 5y ago

Ironic! This is exactly like the hot coffee lady. You, and almost everyone else, is going to read Tesla's interpretation and assume the judgement is overboard without ever reading the complaint. Actually, that's exactly what all of the current comments on here are circling towards. Turns out Facebook isn't the only place with rampant misinformation. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.319709/gov.uscourts.cand.319709.57.0_1.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.31...

ALittleLight 5y ago
I read the factual allegations and skimmed the rest. Thanks for posting this link. No part of this seems as bad as being scalded and hospitalized. No part of this suggests a harmful or intentional corporate policy, like McDonald's superheating their coffee. The allegation doesn't address a major point from Tesla's blog post, which is that the men involved were black. What I took from Tesla's post is that it was mostly (or entirely) black men referring to each other with racial slurs. The factual allegations make it seem like some factory workers used bad/racist language and racist cartoons. Mid level HR types ignored some complaints. Does Tesla have a policy of ignoring or encouraging racist behavior? Or is it just some people failing to do something about reported harassment?
- Misinf0rmation 5y ago
  It's tough to say without being there but this isn't the first lawsuit nor is it the first blog post on racism in the factory. https://www.tesla.com/blog/hotbed-misinformation https://www.tesla.com/blog/hotbed-misinformation
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