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> The medication itself is safe Upon what dosage do you base that on? And particularly is it safe for covid patients, or does it increase mortality? Many doc

by bb88 5y ago

> The medication itself is safe Upon what dosage do you base that on? And particularly is it safe for covid patients, or does it increase mortality? Many doctors are in the US pushing Ivermectin and HCQ as "safe and effective" even though the #1 call to many poison control centers in the US concern Ivermectin poisoning. > Because going overboard on accusations isn’t helping anyone nor adding to any scientific discussion. Giving false hope (or false cures) is by far worse -- and that appears to be the case as to what happened in Brazil. Politicians were pushing Ivermectin as a way to reopen the economy. It's snake oil at it's worst form, and reduces trust between patients and doctors.

SV_BubbleTime 5y ago
> Upon what dosage do you base that on? The recommended human dosage. The one that hasn’t been a problem, ever, not in the millions and millions of people on it. Unlike the extremely common liver damage people get from Tylenol every year. > or does it increase mortality? I have never seen anyone claim that. Do you have a link that makes that claim? If you bring up a possibility without evidence. I guess that will make for spirited comments soon. > Many doctors are in the US pushing Ivermectin and HCQ as "safe and effective" even though the #1 call to many poison control centers in the US concern Ivermectin poisoning. Number one call would not mean number one poisoning. It has unbelievably high media attention, and discussion is being censored. People seem to be calling to ask because “officials” why wouldn’t they? If you have a citation that shows mass poisonings please post it. I could only find two confirmed poisonings in the USA. Whole tubes of horse paste like idiots. > It's snake oil at it's worst form, and reduces trust between patients and doctors. Good thing this has been the only example of that! I agree though, if there were questionable truths, policy decisions on 1/2 baked theories, changing and shifting narratives, that would be harmful for trust. That to me would be epic failures of policy work and would probably cause a backlash in a lot of areas.
- bb88 5y ago
  >> or does it increase mortality? >I have never seen anyone claim that. It's part of being "safe and effective." -- which I believe is your stance here. It's also your burden of proof. > The recommended human dosage. Which is what exactly? I mean, if you want to be an expert, than be an expert. Nothing is stopping you.

by bb88 5y ago

SV_BubbleTime 5y ago

> Upon what dosage do you base that on? The recommended human dosage. The one that hasn’t been a problem, ever, not in the millions and millions of people on it. Unlike the extremely common liver damage people get from Tylenol every year. > or does it increase mortality? I have never seen anyone claim that. Do you have a link that makes that claim? If you bring up a possibility without evidence. I guess that will make for spirited comments soon. > Many doctors are in the US pushing Ivermectin and HCQ as "safe and effective" even though the #1 call to many poison control centers in the US concern Ivermectin poisoning. Number one call would not mean number one poisoning. It has unbelievably high media attention, and discussion is being censored. People seem to be calling to ask because “officials” why wouldn’t they? If you have a citation that shows mass poisonings please post it. I could only find two confirmed poisonings in the USA. Whole tubes of horse paste like idiots. > It's snake oil at it's worst form, and reduces trust between patients and doctors. Good thing this has been the only example of that! I agree though, if there were questionable truths, policy decisions on 1/2 baked theories, changing and shifting narratives, that would be harmful for trust. That to me would be epic failures of policy work and would probably cause a backlash in a lot of areas.

bb88 5y ago
>> or does it increase mortality? >I have never seen anyone claim that. It's part of being "safe and effective." -- which I believe is your stance here. It's also your burden of proof. > The recommended human dosage. Which is what exactly? I mean, if you want to be an expert, than be an expert. Nothing is stopping you.