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But what about people that have already engaged and benefited from that risk? For many of those people, the vaccine risk is not so negligible compared to the a
by rwcarlsen 5y ago
But what about people that have already engaged and benefited from that risk? For many of those people, the vaccine risk is not so negligible compared to the additional benefit they gain from any (much smaller) immune boost they might get. Also, how is policy making "following _the_ science" if it doesn't even acknowledge the superiority of natural immunity. The least they could do is own their disregard and say - we're ignoring some science for [reasons] instead of simply demonizing a large fraction of the population as bigoted selfish backward uneducated scum - which is my interpretation of POTUS declaring war on 20% of Americans - a so called "pandemic of the unvaccinated" in his own words (or whoever wrote the speech).
- TheCoelacanth 5y agoVaccination has minimal risk and substantially increases immunity even for people who have been infected. It is following the science to make them get vaccinated.
- tastyfreeze 5y agoMandating vaccination and ignoring naturally acquired immunity is selectively following the science. It is deceitful and reckless to ignore natural immunity and demonize the unvaccinated.
- TheCoelacanth 5y agoThey aren't ignoring naturally acquired immunity. Vaccination strengthens immunity even for people who have been previously infected.
- tastyfreeze 5y agoYes, they are ignoring naturally acquired immunity. Having acquired natural immunity does not exempt an individual from the requirement to vaccinate. So, in what way are they not ignoring naturally acquired immunity?
- TheCoelacanth 5y agoThe vaccine increases immunity even for people who have already been infected. If everyone gets vaccinated, spread will be lower than if only people who have not already been infected get vaccinated.
- tastyfreeze 5y agoNatural immunity provides a stronger immune response than vaccination alone. So, there is a large group of people that have better immunity than any vaccine can give. But, they must still get vaccinated because the president says so? That is some fucked logic. If all natural immunity people are required to get the vaccine because it gives them better immunity than they already had then by that same logic we should require all vaccinated people to get infected with COVID. Then everybody has the same immunity level.
- TheCoelacanth 5y agoInfecting someone with a deadly disease is not an ethical medical intervention. Vaccination is. The requirement isn't to achieve the maximum level of immunity that is possible. It is to achieve the maximum level of immunity that is possible without incurring significant risk.
- tastyfreeze 5y agoNatural immunity is better than the vaccine. There is a risk of adverse reactions to the vaccine. You are arguing that people who already have superior immunity take additional risk. This is as unethical as demanding the vaccinated get infected with COVID.
- TheCoelacanth 5y agoNonsense. The risk from the vaccine is that you get a headache for a day. The risk from getting infected is that you die.