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So calling your employees the n-word is ok in Texas?

by okaramian 5y ago

rargramble 5y ago
Objectively, is it a $137m offense?
- okaramian 5y ago
  Courts seem to believe so? So yeah? How much do you think it should cost a company when a company allows blatantly racist behavior in the workplace and does nothing about it?
sayonaraman 5y ago
Most likely this is a hoax like all the other fake “hate crimes” or recent years e.g. that story with a “noose” in the garage or black students writing racist graffiti on campus Some do it for attention, others for financial gain https://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/29354447/fbi-says-rope-had-talladega-garage-last-fall-bubba-wallace-not-victim-hate-crime https://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/29354447/fbi-s... https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/education/black-student-admits-to-writing-racist-graffiti-in-parkway-central-bathrooms/article_7b5f7146-aeac-5f50-badb-00e7226907a9.html https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/education/black-student-... https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hoax-missouri-school-district-racist-graffiti-painted-non-white-student https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hoax-missouri-school-distri...
- camdat 5y ago
  Do you assume that neither Tesla nor the court did due diligence in confirming the allegations before bringing this to court?
  - sayonaraman 5y ago
    These things are easy to fake and hard to disprove, especially in the current political climate
throwawayraci 5y ago
The question isn't is it okay. The question is: is it $137mm okay.
ALittleLight 5y ago
There's a world of difference between thinking this is okay and thinking that 137 million dollars for facing racist insults and graffiti is appropriate. For context, a worker who was cooked to death in a Tuna processing facility was awarded the largest wrongful death settlement in California of 6 million dollars. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/12/bumble-bee-foods-settlement-man-cooked-death-tuna https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/12/bumble-bee-f...
- ohgodplsno 5y ago
  How will the poor multibillionaires survive if they can't abuse their employees :(
  - ALittleLight 5y ago
    This guy says the people he worked with called him racist names and he saw racist graffiti in the bathroom. It's not like Elon Musk was burning a cross on his lawn. Rather than worry about the billionaires you might worry how companies will do business if they are subject to massive penalties for racist word use among their employees. "Hey boss, wanna call me racist names for a bit, write some in the bathroom, and split a hundred million?"
- Gibbon1 5y ago
  All the $137M award says is the Jury found itself really pissed off at Tesla. It's basically a notice that Tesla might consider settling these types of claims in the future instead of wasting the Jury's time.
  - ipspam 5y ago
    I find this the most reasonable answer to my comment.
  - tzs 5y ago
    Or they will keep handling these claims the way they always have: they go to mandatory arbitration which either decides it is not racism or awards the claimant a small amount, and in either case Tesla doesn't take any serious action to prevent future occurrences. This one only went through the courts instead of arbitration because it involved someone who they did not have under an arbitration agreement. I'm not sure why they did not have an arbitration agreement. The person was a contract worker employed by a staffing agency rather than directly employed by Tesla, so maybe Tesla thought for some reason that would protect them?

So calling your employees the n-word is ok in Texas?

rargramble 5y ago

Objectively, is it a $137m offense?

okaramian 5y ago
Courts seem to believe so? So yeah? How much do you think it should cost a company when a company allows blatantly racist behavior in the workplace and does nothing about it?

sayonaraman 5y ago

Most likely this is a hoax like all the other fake “hate crimes” or recent years e.g. that story with a “noose” in the garage or black students writing racist graffiti on campus Some do it for attention, others for financial gain https://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/29354447/fbi-says-rope-had-talladega-garage-last-fall-bubba-wallace-not-victim-hate-crime https://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/29354447/fbi-s... https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/education/black-student-admits-to-writing-racist-graffiti-in-parkway-central-bathrooms/article_7b5f7146-aeac-5f50-badb-00e7226907a9.html https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/education/black-student-... https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hoax-missouri-school-district-racist-graffiti-painted-non-white-student https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hoax-missouri-school-distri...

camdat 5y ago
Do you assume that neither Tesla nor the court did due diligence in confirming the allegations before bringing this to court?
- sayonaraman 5y ago
  These things are easy to fake and hard to disprove, especially in the current political climate

throwawayraci 5y ago

The question isn't is it okay. The question is: is it $137mm okay.

ALittleLight 5y ago

There's a world of difference between thinking this is okay and thinking that 137 million dollars for facing racist insults and graffiti is appropriate. For context, a worker who was cooked to death in a Tuna processing facility was awarded the largest wrongful death settlement in California of 6 million dollars. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/12/bumble-bee-foods-settlement-man-cooked-death-tuna https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/12/bumble-bee-f...

ohgodplsno 5y ago
How will the poor multibillionaires survive if they can't abuse their employees :(
- ALittleLight 5y ago
  This guy says the people he worked with called him racist names and he saw racist graffiti in the bathroom. It's not like Elon Musk was burning a cross on his lawn. Rather than worry about the billionaires you might worry how companies will do business if they are subject to massive penalties for racist word use among their employees. "Hey boss, wanna call me racist names for a bit, write some in the bathroom, and split a hundred million?"
Gibbon1 5y ago
All the $137M award says is the Jury found itself really pissed off at Tesla. It's basically a notice that Tesla might consider settling these types of claims in the future instead of wasting the Jury's time.
- ipspam 5y ago
  I find this the most reasonable answer to my comment.
- tzs 5y ago
  Or they will keep handling these claims the way they always have: they go to mandatory arbitration which either decides it is not racism or awards the claimant a small amount, and in either case Tesla doesn't take any serious action to prevent future occurrences. This one only went through the courts instead of arbitration because it involved someone who they did not have under an arbitration agreement. I'm not sure why they did not have an arbitration agreement. The person was a contract worker employed by a staffing agency rather than directly employed by Tesla, so maybe Tesla thought for some reason that would protect them?