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"You have built, bought, or maintained a product which is vital to billions. It's a free service unavailable 0.01% of the year. For this you must be punished."
by ALittleLight 5y ago
"You have built, bought, or maintained a product which is vital to billions. It's a free service unavailable 0.01% of the year. For this you must be punished."
- cmrdporcupine 5y agoOh, yeah, Zuckerberg is a real Howard Roark. Please.
- ALittleLight 5y agoWhatever you think of Zuckerberg, Ayn Rand, or politics, it's unquestionable that Zuckerberg and Facebook have built, bought and maintained useful services used by billions. That's literally what the featured tweet is complaining about - Whatsapp is so crucial for so many it's like a utility.
- oska 5y agoThis is so disingenuous. From day one, Facebook have done all in their power to make themselves a monopoly while simultaneously trying to avoid all of the legal restrictions that normally apply to a utility service.
- whitepaint 5y agoYeah, FB has made incredibly smart business choices.
- oska 5y agoFB is a toxic, sociopathic company, led by a sociopath. Full stop. Talking about its 'incredibly smart business choices' is like talking about the 'smart moves' a serial killer took to avoid capture for years & years. Interesting to some perhaps, but obviously not worthy of any admiration.
- aaron695 5y agoShhhhh on HN you can't have independent thought, your hive mind has to hate Facebook for every incident even if it makes no technical or logical sense. The Tweet is a good reminder how Facebook is a utility and more than a 'fun' app. It's nonsense to then go it needs regulation due to this outage. It's obviously unintentional, and as you point out, outages are rare and it would be unlikely any government would have less. It's like no one here has ever run a server and understands how hard not having down time is, so has to bike shed ohhhhh Facebook bad because of some other incident. HN really has a low technical knowledge base.
- unethical_ban 5y agoThis is a clever troll. It's so full of ignorance I thought of reporting as a troll, but that would only serve to validate one of your false claims that one can't have independent thought. The point ideologically is that society should not be so dependent on one private company. Government is regulated by the people and serves the public interest. Facebook serves only itself and profit. Government intervention, so the theory goes, could mandate a market or set of chat protocols that prevents a single operator from dominating the chat sphere via network effects or by technical operation.
- aaron695 5y ago[dead]
- Hokusai 5y ago1. Facebook gives service for the profit with little regard for its users. 2. Facebook purchased WhatsApp to remove competition and options from its users. And more https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/04/facebook-whistleblower-testify-us-senate https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/04/facebook-...
- paganel 5y ago> "You have built Whatsapp was not built by Facebook, it was purchased.
- ALittleLight 5y agoThe rest of the phrase is "bought, or maintained." Built refers to Facebook, bought to Instagram and WhatsApp, and maintained to all three.
- system2 5y agoDoes it matter? It is an app built by a dude. Facebook found value in it and invested. They can shut it down completely and no one has any right to stop them from doing it.
- paganel 5y agoWhen you spend 16 billion on an acquisition is not just an app "built by a dude" anymore. To say nothing of the fact that even at that point Whatsapp was more used than FB's messenger tool (still is, I bet). > and no one has any right to stop them from doing it. FB can of course do whatever it wants to do. The powers that be can also do whatever they want to FB.
- asddubs 5y agoI don't think the point is being made from the standpoint that facebook ought to be punished, but from a more pragmatic one that no one private entity should be in control of something so vital