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What percentage of them are black or Hispanic? Many healthcare providers in NYC, including companies like Northwell, are staffed with black and Hispanic worker

What percentage of them are black or Hispanic? Many healthcare providers in NYC, including companies like Northwell, are staffed with black and Hispanic workers who have much higher rates of refusal to be vaccinated. If these workers are disproportionately black or Hispanic workers, then this would appear to be a textbook example of systemic racism. This is certainly the view of BLM who has expressed this view w.r.t. the mandate.

0des 5y ago
> If these workers are disproportionately black or Hispanic workers, then this would appear to be a textbook example of systemic racism Does every incidence of disproportional representation indicate systemic racism, or is there some context lacking here?
- steakknife 5y ago
  Don't feed the trolls. These are the same folks screeching about supposed critical race theory in elementary schools.
iammisc 5y ago
This is systemic racism, and like most actual examples of systemic racism (as opposed to the completely trivial number of black men that are killed by police each year), this one is widely supported by most liberal whites, who, yet again, have completely ignored minorities after supposedly elevating our voices for the past year. What a joke. We should start teaching Malcolm X in school.
- steakknife 5y ago
  How do you feel about teaching critical race theory in public schools?
  - iammisc 5y ago
    I think it's a bad idea any way you slice or dice it. Either it's an academic legal theory as some claim (in which case it belongs in law schools, not elementary, middle or early high school) or it's divisive as others claim. Personally, I fall on the side of divisive after being explained in great detail by my (white) history professor that I am a white man because, even though I'm brown and have faced ample discrimination (of the very explicit kind, not some voodoo-doodoo systemic crap), since I'm successful and well off and well spoken, I'm not really an immigrant, not really a minority and actually white on the inside in a process he described as 'whitening'. You no sorry, my melanin and my experience beg to differ. I refuse to use 'whiteness' as a synonym of success. That is the most racist thing I've ever heard. How successful you are is not and should not be measured by how 'white' you are. Sorry not falling for this shit.
zzzeek 5y ago
This seems like a bad faith argument. Black and Hispanic workers are free to choose to get vaccinated just like anyone else and there are no barriers to them doing so, and it's not unreasonable that POC who work for a hospital would be held to the same standards as any other employee. "Racism" applies to things that can't be changed, like skin color or national heritage.
Avshalom 5y ago
the racial gap has actually been closed for a bit now https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffsb&q=racial+gap+vaccine&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffsb&q=racial+gap+vaccine&ia=web

0des 5y ago

> If these workers are disproportionately black or Hispanic workers, then this would appear to be a textbook example of systemic racism Does every incidence of disproportional representation indicate systemic racism, or is there some context lacking here?

steakknife 5y ago
Don't feed the trolls. These are the same folks screeching about supposed critical race theory in elementary schools.

iammisc 5y ago

This is systemic racism, and like most actual examples of systemic racism (as opposed to the completely trivial number of black men that are killed by police each year), this one is widely supported by most liberal whites, who, yet again, have completely ignored minorities after supposedly elevating our voices for the past year. What a joke. We should start teaching Malcolm X in school.

steakknife 5y ago
How do you feel about teaching critical race theory in public schools?
- iammisc 5y ago
  I think it's a bad idea any way you slice or dice it. Either it's an academic legal theory as some claim (in which case it belongs in law schools, not elementary, middle or early high school) or it's divisive as others claim. Personally, I fall on the side of divisive after being explained in great detail by my (white) history professor that I am a white man because, even though I'm brown and have faced ample discrimination (of the very explicit kind, not some voodoo-doodoo systemic crap), since I'm successful and well off and well spoken, I'm not really an immigrant, not really a minority and actually white on the inside in a process he described as 'whitening'. You no sorry, my melanin and my experience beg to differ. I refuse to use 'whiteness' as a synonym of success. That is the most racist thing I've ever heard. How successful you are is not and should not be measured by how 'white' you are. Sorry not falling for this shit.

zzzeek 5y ago

This seems like a bad faith argument. Black and Hispanic workers are free to choose to get vaccinated just like anyone else and there are no barriers to them doing so, and it's not unreasonable that POC who work for a hospital would be held to the same standards as any other employee. "Racism" applies to things that can't be changed, like skin color or national heritage.

Avshalom 5y ago

the racial gap has actually been closed for a bit now https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffsb&q=racial+gap+vaccine&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffsb&q=racial+gap+vaccine&ia=web