3 ms·
That's nearly 2% of their workforce, at a place that I would assume would self-select for people who take vaccines seriously. I wonder what the unvaccinated % i
by orf 5y ago
That's nearly 2% of their workforce, at a place that I would assume would self-select for people who take vaccines seriously. I wonder what the unvaccinated % is for other industries.
- jopsen 5y agoDoes employees include administrative staff, janitorial staff, etc? Healthcare providers probably employ at lot of people who aren't nurses or doctors.
- tptacek 5y agoIt does.
- munk-a 5y agoYup it definitely does - but those people will more regularly rub shoulders with people engaged in actual patient care. Even the administrative positions should probably be treated seriously - and trying to break out exceptions (i.e. allowing unvaccinated people who are fully remote) can be difficult from an HR perspective and can expose you to unnecessary liability from both the patient side and from the HR side (by allowing more room for wrongful firing suits).
- beerandt 5y agoActual healthcare providers are likely contracted companies and/or workers, and not direct employee hires. Moreso for physicians and mid-levels, but sometimes nurses and techs, as well. (Although idk about the subject of this story, specifically.) Primarily educational institutions and 100% public hospitals are keeping physicians directly employed, and even some of them are now going the contract route.
- throwaway0a5e 5y ago>Healthcare providers probably employ at lot of people who aren't nurses or doctors. Hard to say for any particular provider. Some facilities/companies subcontract everything. Some don't.
- tptacek 5y agoThe losses are likely concentrated in support staff, both because of the educational correlation with vaccination and because relatively low-earning employees have a lot of employment options right now and perhaps not that much to lose by switching jobs. Also worth knowing is their annual employee turnover rates, which appear to be 8%, vs. 1.8% in this firing --- since that's not a RIF, it's likely those roles will quickly be filled (though at higher cost).
- iammisc 5y agoDoctorates are the most likely to be unvaxxed though: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/americans-with-phds-are-most-reluctant-to-get-vaccinated-against-covid/ar-AANjRHh https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/americans-with-phds-are-mo...
- tptacek 5y agoDoctors (as in, medical doctors) have what looks like the highest vaccination rates in the country; nurses fall right in the sweet spot of the U-shaped distribution that article posits.
- stirlo 5y agoDoctorates =/= Medical Professionals
- iammisc 5y agoThe claim is that the least educated are most likely to be unvaxxed. That is false.
- TheCoelacanth 5y ago> The study employs a novel sampling method with a soft ask and low response rate, the effect of which has not yet been fully studied > To our knowledge, no other study has evaluated education with this level of granularity, which was possible due to our unusually large sample size (>10,000 participants with PhDs). Further investigation in to hesitancy among those with a PhD is warranted. Given the "novel sampling method" and lack of other studies with similar results, you have to take those results with the grain of salt. It's an interesting finding worth studying further, but you can't really know if they were able to get a representative sample of PhDs, so it's premature to make a definitive claim that they are less likely to vaccinated.
- ghaff 5y agoSomewhere in at least single digits isn't atypical for annual turnover. Yes, a lot of organizations will lose people who will probably have trouble finding equivalent jobs. But the organizations will manage.