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>the oppressor It’s a website that shows you what your friends are doing. That’s it. People said the same things about television

barbazoo 5y ago
It's so much more and if you spend a significant amount of time on HN then you know it.
- aierou 5y ago
  The implication that HN is a primary source of knowledge is disturbing.
  - barbazoo 5y ago
    It's a link aggregator, it being a source of information shouldn't come as a surprise.
md2020 5y ago
That’s simplifying it a lot.
- FormerBandmate 5y ago
  There has been tons of use for it for hate, but people have found a way to use every method of communication for hate (e.g. TV, Mail, phones) and efforts to crack down on hate on Facebook haven’t seemed to have an effect on hate in the real world (see the people banned from Facebook who went on to use other platforms to coordinate 1/6). I don’t like their privacy intrusions but people seem to have a tendency to blame all of society’s ills on Facebook, phones, and the internet and that in and of itself is a massive oversimplification that doesn’t reflect the real issues with our society
  - bamboozled 5y ago
    It's also global targeted advertisement delivery network who tracks user around the internet without consent?
  - cybernautique 5y ago
    I replied to your toplevel, which I make note of simply because I don't want to seem as if I'm targeting you. You dislike their privacy intrusions, and I hate them for it. My life is actively made worse for their stalking, their insistence that they be at the forefront of all things social. I agree that they're not to blame for the hatred in society, nor are they responsible for all of society's problems. But their utter contempt to just let people be is reason enough that I should make myself heard as often as I can, and especially whenever I see an attempt to relieve any amount of pressure that hopefully weighs on their conscience: fuck Facebook and their employees.
mandmandam 5y ago
>That’s it. It really, really isn't all they're doing. Not by the longest of shots. Here is one example: https://indica.medium.com/facebook-is-evil-and-i-quit-2151055bd4bb https://indica.medium.com/facebook-is-evil-and-i-quit-215105... There are thousands of others. Every week on here there's a new story about some new uncovered act of heinous evil from the Zuck and his buds. It's a wonder you haven't seen them.
runawaybottle 5y ago
Yes people said the same thing about television and by and large most people think Television had some pretty bad side effects. A dumber society, all kinds of depression began manifesting in people who were sold an image of ‘reality’ via ads/unrealistic shows, the gutting of ‘journalism’ into 24-hour news, none of that stuff was wrong.
cirgue 5y ago
And they were right, no?
cybernautique 5y ago
It's a multibillion dollar corporation that wants to track me wherever I go, whatever I do, whenever I want to connect. Facebook is a maniacal stalker. Their website is merely an innocuous facade that hides a nest of ugly, venomous, snakes.

barbazoo 5y ago

It's so much more and if you spend a significant amount of time on HN then you know it.

aierou 5y ago
The implication that HN is a primary source of knowledge is disturbing.
- barbazoo 5y ago
  It's a link aggregator, it being a source of information shouldn't come as a surprise.

md2020 5y ago

That’s simplifying it a lot.

FormerBandmate 5y ago
There has been tons of use for it for hate, but people have found a way to use every method of communication for hate (e.g. TV, Mail, phones) and efforts to crack down on hate on Facebook haven’t seemed to have an effect on hate in the real world (see the people banned from Facebook who went on to use other platforms to coordinate 1/6). I don’t like their privacy intrusions but people seem to have a tendency to blame all of society’s ills on Facebook, phones, and the internet and that in and of itself is a massive oversimplification that doesn’t reflect the real issues with our society
- bamboozled 5y ago
  It's also global targeted advertisement delivery network who tracks user around the internet without consent?
- cybernautique 5y ago
  I replied to your toplevel, which I make note of simply because I don't want to seem as if I'm targeting you. You dislike their privacy intrusions, and I hate them for it. My life is actively made worse for their stalking, their insistence that they be at the forefront of all things social. I agree that they're not to blame for the hatred in society, nor are they responsible for all of society's problems. But their utter contempt to just let people be is reason enough that I should make myself heard as often as I can, and especially whenever I see an attempt to relieve any amount of pressure that hopefully weighs on their conscience: fuck Facebook and their employees.

mandmandam 5y ago

>That’s it. It really, really isn't all they're doing. Not by the longest of shots. Here is one example: https://indica.medium.com/facebook-is-evil-and-i-quit-2151055bd4bb https://indica.medium.com/facebook-is-evil-and-i-quit-215105... There are thousands of others. Every week on here there's a new story about some new uncovered act of heinous evil from the Zuck and his buds. It's a wonder you haven't seen them.

runawaybottle 5y ago

Yes people said the same thing about television and by and large most people think Television had some pretty bad side effects. A dumber society, all kinds of depression began manifesting in people who were sold an image of ‘reality’ via ads/unrealistic shows, the gutting of ‘journalism’ into 24-hour news, none of that stuff was wrong.

cirgue 5y ago

And they were right, no?

cybernautique 5y ago

It's a multibillion dollar corporation that wants to track me wherever I go, whatever I do, whenever I want to connect. Facebook is a maniacal stalker. Their website is merely an innocuous facade that hides a nest of ugly, venomous, snakes.