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> The outage has pretty much buried that story, Strongly disagree. The outage has millions of people entering "Facebook" into their search engines. Most engine

> The outage has pretty much buried that story, Strongly disagree. The outage has millions of people entering "Facebook" into their search engines. Most engines will conveniently put related news at the top of the search results page. The most recent and widespread Facebook-related news story is about the whistleblower. Plus everyone has a lot of spare time to read the article now that Facebook and Instagram are down. The outage didn't bury the story. It amplified it. Any suggestions that Facebook did this on purpose don't even make sense.

nwiswell 5y ago
> recent and widespread Facebook-related news story is about the whistleblower With respect I am pretty sure that the most recent and widespread Facebook-related news story is this one. Holistically I agree that this isn't the kind of distraction Facebook wants, although it tickles me to imagine Mark in the datacenter going Rambo with a pair of wire cutters.
- timdaub 5y ago
  Yeah but journalists are happy to connect the dots between the two stories and honestly my brain loves the coincidence of these two thingy being clustered: but the how is clear: Earlier this morning, something inside Facebook caused the company to revoke key digital records that tell computers and other Internet-enabled devices how to find these destinations online.
- timdaub 5y ago
  Yeah but journalists are happy to connect the dots between the two stories and honestly my brain loves the coincidence of these two thingy being clustered: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/10/what-happened-to-facebook-instagram-whatsapp/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/10/what-happened-to-faceboo...
- anigbrowl 5y ago
  That is in no way gonna make people forget the whistleblower story - if anything, it's gonna increase the antipathy to having a single point of failure. Face it, everyone hates FB, even the people who spend the most time on it.
- knicholes 5y ago
  datacenterS
hedvig 5y ago
Yeah but reading about it but also being able to communicate about it on the largest network (the one in question too) are 2 separate phenomena. No one can go on there right now and say I'm deleting my account, who's with me?
optimalsolver 5y ago
Anecdotal, but I just tried Google + Bing and topline Facebook-related news is all about the outage.
- nathan-wall 5y ago
  Also anecdotal, but I didn't know about the whistleblower until I searched Twitter for "facebook" when I learned about the outage.
  - JCharante 5y ago
    I also didn't know about the whistleblower until seeing it as a top tweet, however... The whistleblower is kinda silly If FB could increase revenue by having a "safer" algorithm then of course they would. Every company is just trying to increase revenue..
vlunkr 5y ago
> Any suggestions that Facebook did this on purpose don't even make sense. Unless another disgruntled employee knew it would amplify the story.
shadilay 5y ago
Sample size of one but a quick google shows me zero whistleblower news and 100% outage news.
- Thorrez 5y ago
  https://i.imgur.com/IaSoR0w.png https://i.imgur.com/IaSoR0w.png 1 article about the whistleblower and 2 about the outage. Both about the outage also mention the whistleblower, so you could say that's 100% of coverage at least mentions the whistleblower. Also 1 out of 3 tweets also mentions the whistleblower.
hartator 5y ago
> Strongly disagree. The outage has millions of people entering "Facebook" into their search engines. Most engines will conveniently put related news at the top of the search results page. The most recent and widespread Facebook-related news story is about the whistleblower. I am seeing 0 news about the whistleblower when I google Facebook. Only outage news.
- bastardoperator 5y ago
  Every outage piece of news I'm seeing mentions the whistleblower.
  - sodality2 5y ago
    Who reads the article? If I google "Facebook" to see if there's an outage, I see the first headline that says it's an outage and leave. Maybe curious few percent will.
- hooande 5y ago
  This wasn't the case six hours ago. I checked, there were scattered outage stories and all whistle blower
IceNotNice 5y ago
I'm one of those who had no idea about the whistleblower story, but I learned of it through reading about Facebook network outage.
dotancohen 5y ago
Not at all. I just tried searching for "Facebook" on Google. The whistleblower story is not on the first page of search results. The outage is mentioned half a dozen times on that same page.

nwiswell 5y ago

> recent and widespread Facebook-related news story is about the whistleblower With respect I am pretty sure that the most recent and widespread Facebook-related news story is this one. Holistically I agree that this isn't the kind of distraction Facebook wants, although it tickles me to imagine Mark in the datacenter going Rambo with a pair of wire cutters.

timdaub 5y ago
Yeah but journalists are happy to connect the dots between the two stories and honestly my brain loves the coincidence of these two thingy being clustered: but the how is clear: Earlier this morning, something inside Facebook caused the company to revoke key digital records that tell computers and other Internet-enabled devices how to find these destinations online.
timdaub 5y ago
Yeah but journalists are happy to connect the dots between the two stories and honestly my brain loves the coincidence of these two thingy being clustered: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/10/what-happened-to-facebook-instagram-whatsapp/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/10/what-happened-to-faceboo...
anigbrowl 5y ago
That is in no way gonna make people forget the whistleblower story - if anything, it's gonna increase the antipathy to having a single point of failure. Face it, everyone hates FB, even the people who spend the most time on it.
knicholes 5y ago
datacenterS

hedvig 5y ago

Yeah but reading about it but also being able to communicate about it on the largest network (the one in question too) are 2 separate phenomena. No one can go on there right now and say I'm deleting my account, who's with me?

optimalsolver 5y ago

Anecdotal, but I just tried Google + Bing and topline Facebook-related news is all about the outage.

nathan-wall 5y ago
Also anecdotal, but I didn't know about the whistleblower until I searched Twitter for "facebook" when I learned about the outage.
- JCharante 5y ago
  I also didn't know about the whistleblower until seeing it as a top tweet, however... The whistleblower is kinda silly If FB could increase revenue by having a "safer" algorithm then of course they would. Every company is just trying to increase revenue..

vlunkr 5y ago

> Any suggestions that Facebook did this on purpose don't even make sense. Unless another disgruntled employee knew it would amplify the story.

shadilay 5y ago

Sample size of one but a quick google shows me zero whistleblower news and 100% outage news.

Thorrez 5y ago
https://i.imgur.com/IaSoR0w.png https://i.imgur.com/IaSoR0w.png 1 article about the whistleblower and 2 about the outage. Both about the outage also mention the whistleblower, so you could say that's 100% of coverage at least mentions the whistleblower. Also 1 out of 3 tweets also mentions the whistleblower.

hartator 5y ago

> Strongly disagree. The outage has millions of people entering "Facebook" into their search engines. Most engines will conveniently put related news at the top of the search results page. The most recent and widespread Facebook-related news story is about the whistleblower. I am seeing 0 news about the whistleblower when I google Facebook. Only outage news.

bastardoperator 5y ago
Every outage piece of news I'm seeing mentions the whistleblower.
- sodality2 5y ago
  Who reads the article? If I google "Facebook" to see if there's an outage, I see the first headline that says it's an outage and leave. Maybe curious few percent will.
hooande 5y ago
This wasn't the case six hours ago. I checked, there were scattered outage stories and all whistle blower

IceNotNice 5y ago

I'm one of those who had no idea about the whistleblower story, but I learned of it through reading about Facebook network outage.

dotancohen 5y ago

Not at all. I just tried searching for "Facebook" on Google. The whistleblower story is not on the first page of search results. The outage is mentioned half a dozen times on that same page.