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I would say this is a bit misleading. Personally, I was able to access my FB building this morning (after the outage started) and have continued to be able to u

I would say this is a bit misleading. Personally, I was able to access my FB building this morning (after the outage started) and have continued to be able to use my badge with no problem since. Not saying that there are no employees experiencing this issue, but it is not affecting all Facebook employees.

hinkley 5y ago
Given it's a routing problem, doesn't it matter where your office is on the network with respect to the servers that control the door locks? You could be in a zone of stability that's not affected by the overall chaos.
- asdff 5y ago
  Honestly having buildings automatically lock down like this sounds like an absolute worst practice. FB headquarters is in california. What happens when the big one hits? server is killed and no one can get inside and look for survivors? Shouldn't need a functional network connection to be able to open the door of a building, but here we are I guess.
  - jauer 5y ago
    This is why firefighters practice breaking into buildings.
  - hinkley 5y ago
    Having all of the locks open due to a failure is a very, very common Hollywood movie scenario.
nicoburns 5y ago
Apparently this issue is effecting specifically some of the people who are trying to fix the outage https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28749244 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28749244
- evilotto 5y ago
  Facebook isn't by chance experimenting with an advanced self-aware AI with access to its security systems, is it...?
  - godric-cz 5y ago
    I'm afraid I can't let you into the building today, Dave.
  - vokep 5y ago
    I wish I could look at this as a joke...haha
    - efdee 5y ago
      Fat chance.
yupper32 5y ago
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afavour 5y ago
In fairness the tweet doesn’t say all employees but the title here is ambiguous.
echelon 5y ago
Honest questions! Do you have any ethical qualms working for Facebook? Do you feel the criticisms are blown out of proportion?
- deleted 5y ago
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- Clubber 5y ago
  Tell me your industry and I can probably tell you ethical problems with it.
  - dukeyukey 5y ago
    I'll have a go Legaltech - namely, automating the legal process behind startup funding rounds. We have lawyers on staff to help if needed, but we automate 95% of the work.
    - Clubber 5y ago
      Sure, you are automating away the jobs of lawyers and paralegals and secretaries, janitors, marketing people, sales people, etc. Most automation jobs have ethical problems in that, if successful, they permanently remove jobs from the job market. I should know, automation is what I do, but a different industry. Also, I'm sure if the lawyers on staff make good money, as good as private industry, they certainly won't in about 5-10 years after automation has taken over. So basically you're helping to put thousands of lawyers who spent $200k in degrees to specialize in startup legal work out of work, plus all their support staff they would ordinarily hire and give benefits (healthcare/retirement) to and the families those employees support.
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  - agucova 5y ago
    The fact that almost all industries have some level of ethical problems does not mean that there aren't worse industries than the rest, or that you should somehow take no moral responsibility in choosing a job.
agucova 5y ago
I imagine the authentication systems for the datacenters are more rigorous than most Facebook buildings, right?

hinkley 5y ago

Given it's a routing problem, doesn't it matter where your office is on the network with respect to the servers that control the door locks? You could be in a zone of stability that's not affected by the overall chaos.

asdff 5y ago
Honestly having buildings automatically lock down like this sounds like an absolute worst practice. FB headquarters is in california. What happens when the big one hits? server is killed and no one can get inside and look for survivors? Shouldn't need a functional network connection to be able to open the door of a building, but here we are I guess.
- jauer 5y ago
  This is why firefighters practice breaking into buildings.
- hinkley 5y ago
  Having all of the locks open due to a failure is a very, very common Hollywood movie scenario.

nicoburns 5y ago

Apparently this issue is effecting specifically some of the people who are trying to fix the outage https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28749244 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28749244

evilotto 5y ago
Facebook isn't by chance experimenting with an advanced self-aware AI with access to its security systems, is it...?
- godric-cz 5y ago
  I'm afraid I can't let you into the building today, Dave.
- vokep 5y ago
  I wish I could look at this as a joke...haha
  - efdee 5y ago
    Fat chance.

yupper32 5y ago

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afavour 5y ago

In fairness the tweet doesn’t say all employees but the title here is ambiguous.

echelon 5y ago

Honest questions! Do you have any ethical qualms working for Facebook? Do you feel the criticisms are blown out of proportion?

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Clubber 5y ago
Tell me your industry and I can probably tell you ethical problems with it.
- dukeyukey 5y ago
  I'll have a go Legaltech - namely, automating the legal process behind startup funding rounds. We have lawyers on staff to help if needed, but we automate 95% of the work.
  - Clubber 5y ago
    Sure, you are automating away the jobs of lawyers and paralegals and secretaries, janitors, marketing people, sales people, etc. Most automation jobs have ethical problems in that, if successful, they permanently remove jobs from the job market. I should know, automation is what I do, but a different industry. Also, I'm sure if the lawyers on staff make good money, as good as private industry, they certainly won't in about 5-10 years after automation has taken over. So basically you're helping to put thousands of lawyers who spent $200k in degrees to specialize in startup legal work out of work, plus all their support staff they would ordinarily hire and give benefits (healthcare/retirement) to and the families those employees support.
- deleted 5y ago
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- agucova 5y ago
  The fact that almost all industries have some level of ethical problems does not mean that there aren't worse industries than the rest, or that you should somehow take no moral responsibility in choosing a job.

agucova 5y ago

I imagine the authentication systems for the datacenters are more rigorous than most Facebook buildings, right?