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Previously, I used to be excited about new OS versions coming out. Nowadays, I'm only looking for what did they break or block this time, and how much problems

Previously, I used to be excited about new OS versions coming out. Nowadays, I'm only looking for what did they break or block this time, and how much problems would it cause.

myko 5y ago
Same. I was thinking about this when I first saw this announcement and realized that if AOSP was developed in the open it probably wouldn't change anything. Releasing big updates of the open source code like this feels pointless.
- Andrew_nenakhov 5y ago
  AOSP is practically dead, all important parts replaced by proprietary Play Services. I think it is only a matter of time before google replaces Android and Linux with Fuchsia.
  - kllrnohj 5y ago
    This isn't remotely true. Nearly all the advertised Android 12 features are in AOSP, not Play Services. People vastly overestimate how much stuff is in Play Services.
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
  > Releasing big updates of the open source code like this feels pointless. Custom ROMs still benefit
Frenchgeek 5y ago
It's not like you can easily update the OS in a smartphone, to begin with...
- fsflover 5y ago
  Unless it's made with a user in mind, like Librem 5 or Pinephone.
  - atatatat 5y ago
    Or a Pixel ducks that lets you unlock and, wait for it, relock the bootloader after installing Graphene.
    - summm 5y ago
      But graphene does not let you do anything more than AOSP, specifically it does not trust you enough to let you have root while using a locked bootloader.
      - atatatat 5y ago
        It does far more than AOSP, and AOSP has taken patches from Graphene's lead dev — I'd definitely inform yourself further on this.
dimeatree 5y ago
Yes, I am in the same boat here. It feels like there is always a new iOS or Android version being released which always manages to break a feature on my app and sheds months off of my life.
bserge 5y ago
Because a new night mode or yet another needless redesign is not an update. They seem to have a quota of "updates" to fill tbh.
- sva_ 5y ago
  About 1 major version per year, for some weird reason.

Previously, I used to be excited about new OS versions coming out. Nowadays, I'm only looking for what did they break or block this time, and how much problems would it cause.

myko 5y ago

Same. I was thinking about this when I first saw this announcement and realized that if AOSP was developed in the open it probably wouldn't change anything. Releasing big updates of the open source code like this feels pointless.

Andrew_nenakhov 5y ago
AOSP is practically dead, all important parts replaced by proprietary Play Services. I think it is only a matter of time before google replaces Android and Linux with Fuchsia.
- kllrnohj 5y ago
  This isn't remotely true. Nearly all the advertised Android 12 features are in AOSP, not Play Services. People vastly overestimate how much stuff is in Play Services.
yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
> Releasing big updates of the open source code like this feels pointless. Custom ROMs still benefit

Frenchgeek 5y ago

It's not like you can easily update the OS in a smartphone, to begin with...

fsflover 5y ago
Unless it's made with a user in mind, like Librem 5 or Pinephone.
- atatatat 5y ago
  Or a Pixel ducks that lets you unlock and, wait for it, relock the bootloader after installing Graphene.
  - summm 5y ago
    But graphene does not let you do anything more than AOSP, specifically it does not trust you enough to let you have root while using a locked bootloader.
    - atatatat 5y ago
      It does far more than AOSP, and AOSP has taken patches from Graphene's lead dev — I'd definitely inform yourself further on this.

dimeatree 5y ago

Yes, I am in the same boat here. It feels like there is always a new iOS or Android version being released which always manages to break a feature on my app and sheds months off of my life.

bserge 5y ago

Because a new night mode or yet another needless redesign is not an update. They seem to have a quota of "updates" to fill tbh.

sva_ 5y ago
About 1 major version per year, for some weird reason.