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If he's an open and virulent racist you should have better proof than a twitter account. I read all the tweets he made this year. He posts on Gab, posted a clip

by c0m 5y ago

If he's an open and virulent racist you should have better proof than a twitter account. I read all the tweets he made this year. He posts on Gab, posted a clip from an offensively named Danish satire film, and generally seems about as unpleasant as I'd expect for someone who owns the type of domains he owns but he does not seem to be openly racist. If you're going to label someone as an "open and virulent racist" you should at least have some evidence to support it. It's unwise to make such extraordinary claims without evidence beyond "trust me bro", particularly on an account linked to your real-life identity as this could reasonably be seen as libellous if it's untrue.

woodruffw 5y ago
> If he's an open and virulent racist you should have better proof than a twitter account. Sure. Here's vc calling someone who isn't nonwhite a "creature" and implying that they would discriminate against whites[1]. Here's vc hanging out with a bunch of people wearing white nationalist apparel and holding a sign that references a racist meme[2]. > It's unwise to make such extraordinary claims without evidence beyond "trust me bro", particularly on an account linked to your real-life identity as this could reasonably be seen as libellous if it's untrue. I fortunately live in a country with strong protections against frivolous libel and defamation claims. What an ironic threat to make! [1]: https://twitter.com/gexcolo/status/1441549739087048708 https://twitter.com/gexcolo/status/1441549739087048708 [2]: https://twitter.com/gexcolo/status/1307057430761738252 https://twitter.com/gexcolo/status/1307057430761738252
- c0m 5y ago
  > What an ironic threat to make! Yeah, I, a third party with no horse in this race, am threatening you. lol. Reminding you of the severity of a claim is not a threat.
- caeril 5y ago
  > hanging out with a bunch of people wearing white nationalist apparel and holding a sign that references a racist meme Getting a rise out of the easily-offended is as old as time. Your Mom jokes go back centuries. Satirizing those who take themselves so seriously that they take offense at words and images is downright Shakespearean. Late 20th century stand-up comedy relied on inducing offense. Andrew Dice Clay was particularly good at this. The elevation of negative subjective feelings as the primary determinant of moral wrongness in the last couple decades has basically killed comedy. I'm tickled pink that VC and others are still doing the Lord's work, here.
  - woodruffw 5y ago
    > Getting a rise out of the easily-offended is as old as time. Your Mom jokes go back centuries. Satirizing those who take themselves so seriously that they take offense at words and images is downright Shakespearean. Late 20th century stand-up comedy relied on inducing offense. Andrew Dice Clay was particularly good at this. Sure! I don't believe anybody can object to these historical claims. The problem is as old as satire itself: if the only people listening to your jokes are the ones who genuinely believe the positions you're lampooning, you're no longer the comedian. You're now either a fool or a willful pundit among fools. Shakespeare is deeply funny because he knew his audience was overwhelmingly poor & common Londoners; people aware of England's class system receptive to irreverent treatments of nobility. "Get thee to a nunnery" is funny because the commoners are laughing at the portrayed impurity of the nobility; it's transgressive. 4chan's humor is transgressive, and I love it. But vc's claim to continuity with that tradition doesn't bear scrutiny: scrape away the thin layer of racist language, and there's no wit or insight. That's why only racists find it funny, and why vc finds himself in the company of & doing the work of fools.

by c0m 5y ago

woodruffw 5y ago

> If he's an open and virulent racist you should have better proof than a twitter account. Sure. Here's vc calling someone who isn't nonwhite a "creature" and implying that they would discriminate against whites[1]. Here's vc hanging out with a bunch of people wearing white nationalist apparel and holding a sign that references a racist meme[2]. > It's unwise to make such extraordinary claims without evidence beyond "trust me bro", particularly on an account linked to your real-life identity as this could reasonably be seen as libellous if it's untrue. I fortunately live in a country with strong protections against frivolous libel and defamation claims. What an ironic threat to make! [1]: https://twitter.com/gexcolo/status/1441549739087048708 https://twitter.com/gexcolo/status/1441549739087048708 [2]: https://twitter.com/gexcolo/status/1307057430761738252 https://twitter.com/gexcolo/status/1307057430761738252

c0m 5y ago
> What an ironic threat to make! Yeah, I, a third party with no horse in this race, am threatening you. lol. Reminding you of the severity of a claim is not a threat.
caeril 5y ago
> hanging out with a bunch of people wearing white nationalist apparel and holding a sign that references a racist meme Getting a rise out of the easily-offended is as old as time. Your Mom jokes go back centuries. Satirizing those who take themselves so seriously that they take offense at words and images is downright Shakespearean. Late 20th century stand-up comedy relied on inducing offense. Andrew Dice Clay was particularly good at this. The elevation of negative subjective feelings as the primary determinant of moral wrongness in the last couple decades has basically killed comedy. I'm tickled pink that VC and others are still doing the Lord's work, here.
- woodruffw 5y ago
  > Getting a rise out of the easily-offended is as old as time. Your Mom jokes go back centuries. Satirizing those who take themselves so seriously that they take offense at words and images is downright Shakespearean. Late 20th century stand-up comedy relied on inducing offense. Andrew Dice Clay was particularly good at this. Sure! I don't believe anybody can object to these historical claims. The problem is as old as satire itself: if the only people listening to your jokes are the ones who genuinely believe the positions you're lampooning, you're no longer the comedian. You're now either a fool or a willful pundit among fools. Shakespeare is deeply funny because he knew his audience was overwhelmingly poor & common Londoners; people aware of England's class system receptive to irreverent treatments of nobility. "Get thee to a nunnery" is funny because the commoners are laughing at the portrayed impurity of the nobility; it's transgressive. 4chan's humor is transgressive, and I love it. But vc's claim to continuity with that tradition doesn't bear scrutiny: scrape away the thin layer of racist language, and there's no wit or insight. That's why only racists find it funny, and why vc finds himself in the company of & doing the work of fools.