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I have both Firefox and Brave installed (currently typing this on Firefox). I use Brave because it's Chromium without Google's stuff, fairly fast updates, supp

I have both Firefox and Brave installed (currently typing this on Firefox). I use Brave because it's Chromium without Google's stuff, fairly fast updates, supports extensions from the official store, etc. All other stuff is disabled... I use it as a browser.

smoldesu 5y ago
I have a similar setup, except I use Ungoogled Chromium as my Chrome browser. You could achieve similar results by stripping Brave of it's featureset, but it's easier for me since I can automate the process of installing Chromium on my desktop. I'm glad you seem to get it though. My comment wasn't intended as a jab at Brave's featureset, but rather to point out that they ship as completely different utilities. As someone who already has utilities for what it offers, it's hard to fit Brave into my life. On top of that, it's also hard to trust that they won't introduce some radical feature that I won't like, since it's current state is one hell of a precedent for what a browser should look like. At the end of the day I err on the side of simplicity and security.
- celsoazevedo 5y ago
  Ungoogled Chromium is nice, but lacks self updates and I can't seem to be able to install extensions directly from the store. For browser updates, I could go the binaries way, but then I'd have to use a 3rd party package manager and have to live with outdated versions (the project is on Chromium 94, but the version for macOS is still on 92). I could also build it myself, but I don't want to deal with that (I guess part of the problem is me being lazy). The perfect Chromium browser for me would be Brave as it works right now, but without their own features. Sadly that doesn't seem to exist.
kreetx 5y ago
Same here ("it's Chromium without Google's stuff"). For Brave on Android I wish they deviated from Chrome by adding a no-autoplay option for videos.[1] [1] https://community.brave.com/t/where-is-the-disable-video-autoplay-setting/211019/8 https://community.brave.com/t/where-is-the-disable-video-aut...
tlavoie 5y ago
How would you compare Brave to Vivaldi, which also uses Chromium under the hood? That's my default not-Chrome, haven't used Brave.
- celsoazevedo 5y ago
  Vivaldi is an interesting browser... it's developed by some of the people that used to work on the original Opera browser. Opera was sold and now also uses Chromium, but it's closer to Chromium (and Brave) in terms of UI and features, than to Vivaldi and the old Opera. I've tried it, but it tries to do a lot (email client, notes, very customisable, etc) and sometimes I would get overwhelmed with all the options. It also seems to use more resources and was not as fluid as other Chromium-based browsers (at least on my machine). I've heard that they rely a lot on javascript so it's easier to maintain the UI and features across all platforms, but the performance suffers a bit. Brave is closer to Chromium and Chrome (UI, features, etc). If you try it, keep Brave Rewards off, ignore the crypto side of things, it can be a nice Chrome replacement if you don't need all the Google stuff (sync, etc). In any case, if you're happy with Vivaldi, then keep using it. I don't think it's a bad browser, but sadly it doesn't fit my needs.
  - tlavoie 5y ago
    Great, thanks for the note. I'm using Firefox as my primary, so really, Vivaldi tends to be my alternate for sites that don't like Firefox (or at least the configuration I use.)

smoldesu 5y ago

I have a similar setup, except I use Ungoogled Chromium as my Chrome browser. You could achieve similar results by stripping Brave of it's featureset, but it's easier for me since I can automate the process of installing Chromium on my desktop. I'm glad you seem to get it though. My comment wasn't intended as a jab at Brave's featureset, but rather to point out that they ship as completely different utilities. As someone who already has utilities for what it offers, it's hard to fit Brave into my life. On top of that, it's also hard to trust that they won't introduce some radical feature that I won't like, since it's current state is one hell of a precedent for what a browser should look like. At the end of the day I err on the side of simplicity and security.

celsoazevedo 5y ago
Ungoogled Chromium is nice, but lacks self updates and I can't seem to be able to install extensions directly from the store. For browser updates, I could go the binaries way, but then I'd have to use a 3rd party package manager and have to live with outdated versions (the project is on Chromium 94, but the version for macOS is still on 92). I could also build it myself, but I don't want to deal with that (I guess part of the problem is me being lazy). The perfect Chromium browser for me would be Brave as it works right now, but without their own features. Sadly that doesn't seem to exist.

kreetx 5y ago

Same here ("it's Chromium without Google's stuff"). For Brave on Android I wish they deviated from Chrome by adding a no-autoplay option for videos.[1] [1] https://community.brave.com/t/where-is-the-disable-video-autoplay-setting/211019/8 https://community.brave.com/t/where-is-the-disable-video-aut...

tlavoie 5y ago

How would you compare Brave to Vivaldi, which also uses Chromium under the hood? That's my default not-Chrome, haven't used Brave.

celsoazevedo 5y ago
Vivaldi is an interesting browser... it's developed by some of the people that used to work on the original Opera browser. Opera was sold and now also uses Chromium, but it's closer to Chromium (and Brave) in terms of UI and features, than to Vivaldi and the old Opera. I've tried it, but it tries to do a lot (email client, notes, very customisable, etc) and sometimes I would get overwhelmed with all the options. It also seems to use more resources and was not as fluid as other Chromium-based browsers (at least on my machine). I've heard that they rely a lot on javascript so it's easier to maintain the UI and features across all platforms, but the performance suffers a bit. Brave is closer to Chromium and Chrome (UI, features, etc). If you try it, keep Brave Rewards off, ignore the crypto side of things, it can be a nice Chrome replacement if you don't need all the Google stuff (sync, etc). In any case, if you're happy with Vivaldi, then keep using it. I don't think it's a bad browser, but sadly it doesn't fit my needs.
- tlavoie 5y ago
  Great, thanks for the note. I'm using Firefox as my primary, so really, Vivaldi tends to be my alternate for sites that don't like Firefox (or at least the configuration I use.)