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Societies with reputation economics (aka face) as the main factor, are incredibly wasteful on human resources, bad at crisis management and generally worser at

Societies with reputation economics (aka face) as the main factor, are incredibly wasteful on human resources, bad at crisis management and generally worser at innovating. Let the initial management of the Covid crisis here be a example. Its one of the established bonus points, that cultures whos mythology in indoctrination praises martyrs (e.g. Jews, Shiites, Christians) prepares its members to stand out even against resistance and thus overcome the various obstacles when it comes to leaving local minima. Reputation economics historically was a recipe for stagnant societies which succumbed sooner or later to disaster. Every year unchanged is a lucky coin toss.

chopin 5y ago
> Every year unchanged is a lucky coin toss. But every year changed may be as well. For example the November-revolution in Russia. There are numerous examples that change was for the worse, especially for the masses. And the Chinese or Roman empires outperformed any other quickly changing empire by far.
- OneTimePetes 5y ago
  Did they? As far as i remember, the chinese empire was toppled by a small fast changing merchant nation on a island half way around the world. Beginning a hundred years were it was trampled by repeatedly including by another island nation nearby. The roman empire died the strangest death of all, it created such a tremendous underclass stagnant in misery (slaves, woman, all non-citizens) that a religion could basically overwrite its whole culture, erasing it from existence, without leaving behind even the technological advances.
  - chopin 5y ago
    Surely both ended - after existing longer than any empire I know of. China is on its way to become a superpower again. One could argue that the last 150 years are merely a temporary dip.
    - OneTimePetes 5y ago
      China is spiraling back down the well. They are currently closing off, like north korea. Theire age pyramid is coming down hard on them. They have not yet a fully working info-economy, so they are running out of cheap manual labour. So many before them, were to take the throne for all eternity, the japanese, the koreans and then they all became just another part of a connected world and on the throne remained, he who could in-cooperate change the fastest and most efficient.

chopin 5y ago

> Every year unchanged is a lucky coin toss. But every year changed may be as well. For example the November-revolution in Russia. There are numerous examples that change was for the worse, especially for the masses. And the Chinese or Roman empires outperformed any other quickly changing empire by far.

OneTimePetes 5y ago
Did they? As far as i remember, the chinese empire was toppled by a small fast changing merchant nation on a island half way around the world. Beginning a hundred years were it was trampled by repeatedly including by another island nation nearby. The roman empire died the strangest death of all, it created such a tremendous underclass stagnant in misery (slaves, woman, all non-citizens) that a religion could basically overwrite its whole culture, erasing it from existence, without leaving behind even the technological advances.
- chopin 5y ago
  Surely both ended - after existing longer than any empire I know of. China is on its way to become a superpower again. One could argue that the last 150 years are merely a temporary dip.
  - OneTimePetes 5y ago
    China is spiraling back down the well. They are currently closing off, like north korea. Theire age pyramid is coming down hard on them. They have not yet a fully working info-economy, so they are running out of cheap manual labour. So many before them, were to take the throne for all eternity, the japanese, the koreans and then they all became just another part of a connected world and on the throne remained, he who could in-cooperate change the fastest and most efficient.