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To add context. In Aviation, if they do find a bug in the software running an airplane's engine they do ground planes until they know more about impact and miti
by Iolaum 5y ago
To add context. In Aviation, if they do find a bug in the software running an airplane's engine they do ground planes until they know more about impact and mitigation.
Not saying cars should do the same, just that it's not absurd to consider it.
- hef19898 5y agoWell, to be honest something like Tesla's Autopilot would never have been certified in Aerospace anyway. And yes, the question of what authorities would do in such a case is a valid one. It seems like authorities are struggling with functions like that, would it be simply hardware, e.g. faulty airbag sensors, recalls would have been already be issued.
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago" It seems like authorities are struggling" I would rather describe it as sleeping at the wheel, passed out drunk and having pissed their pants after vomiting a bottle of hard liquir. Okay, maybe i got carried away with the metaphor, but you get the idea
- hef19898 5y agoFunny how someone on the internet can translate my understanding of "struggling" into plain English! Appreciate it! Disclaimer: I really try to work on my ability to word stuff more diplomatically. HN is a good training ground for that!
- leesec 5y agoIt's funny how super pro regulation people never consider the lives lost caused by slow regulation. If Tesla solves driving it will lead to tens of thousands of lives saved a year. Since 2015 there have been 20 deaths in 16 accidents related to autopilot, globally. Doesn't sound like a lot in comparison to highway death numbers, over 6 years.
- hef19898 5y agoIt's funny how people ignoring regulation, that developed during decades for very valid reasons, usually do so to further businesses and projects that benefit greatly by doing so. Tesla is one example when it comes to self-driving, Uber another one when it come to the Taxi business. All for the greater good of course.
- leesec 5y agoYou think Uber doesn't provide a good service to the world? You are in favor of Taxi/Medallion monopolies?
- hef19898 5y agoNot necessarily, just the a huge portion of Ubers competitive advantage comes from ignoring existing rules. Rules incumbents do follow.
- Apocryphon 5y agoPerhaps it can be simultaneously true that Uber is providing a good service to customers against an outdated and badly-run industry, while they are doing many bad things.
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago"You don't like you country being occupied by Soviet Union? Would you prefer Nazi Germany instead?"
- leesec 5y agoYou think taxi's and uber are like the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany?
- 6gvONxR4sf7o 5y ago> If Tesla solves driving it will lead to tens of thousands of lives saved a year. That’s a big if. If we solved aging, we’d save nearly all lives, so please don’t regulate my medical practice. I expect to have aging solved and millions of treatments rolled out by 2020.
- taneq 5y agoThat’s the theory but the recent issues with Boeing show that practice doesn’t always follow.
- hef19898 5y agoBoeing lobbied the FAA for way too long to avoid grounding of the fleet. It did happen so, after it turned out Boeing's SW fixes didn't work. Also, just how that part of the 737MAX was certified is the real scandal, if you ask me. This is the literal example proofing the rule, so.
- zibzab 5y agoI can already see Elons angry tweets if MVA ever even thinks about that. Remember the Corona tweets? What we need is a big fat lawsuit, since the government will not do anything to anger the only profitable US automaker.
- Consultant32452 5y agoI’ll be happy if “AI” cars are safer than human drivers on average. Zero accidents/deaths can come later. If everyone was flying their personal planes around and constantly banging into each other a minor software bug would not ground any planes. It would be more like a malfunctioning airbag recall.