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A 2m cable with 100W charging (the highest currently, but not for long) and video using Thunderbolt 3 is £70 inc sales tax, it's also stiffer and heavier than o

A 2m cable with 100W charging (the highest currently, but not for long) and video using Thunderbolt 3 is £70 inc sales tax, it's also stiffer and heavier than other cables. How many of those do you plan to just have lying around for convenience? My XPS 15 already takes more power than that so has its own charger with a physical USB C connector (but also accepts standard USB C chargers with lower wattage). The next version will probably use the new USB C charging standard that the current cables don't support. Time to throw out all those cables I guess.

morsch 5y ago
I can find cables claiming the same spec (100W, TB3, 2m) for 20-30 EUR. Less if you drop the length requirement -- 2m seems quite long, especially if you're using TB3 to connect a laptop to a display. I agree that there's a place for lower-spec cables that are cheaper and thinner.
- brigade 5y ago
  They’re almost certainly 20gbps TB3 cables if they have sufficient signal integrity to be in spec. Anyway, the 2m 40gbps cables I have are actually thinner, lighter, and more flexible than either of the 2m 5-10 gbps USB-C cables I have, or even some of the really short and cheap 5gbps cables that come bundles with SSDs. Active cables might be expensive, but at least they allow using higher gauge and/or less shielding for signal wires.
- neither_color 5y ago
  I use a 12 foot USB-C cable(~3.5 meters) for my VR headset as it has to be long enough to allow me to flail about while streaming PCVR.
qwerty456127 5y ago
> A 2m cable with 100W charging (the highest currently, but not for long) and video using Thunderbolt 3 is £70 inc sales tax, it's also stiffer and heavier than other cables. How many of those do you plan to just have lying around for convenience? I would get 5 if I could be sure they really will work reliably with every device in every case possible and the standard won't change in a couple of months. I almost feel like buying an insurance against this bullshit. And I don't think they can be so heavy to the point it would be relevant. I'd rather buy the hardest I can find as mass positively correlates with reliability in electronics.
- jrochkind1 5y ago
  That's one option, but not everyone has £350 to spend on cables. (Especially when next year they'll all no longer be the full-featured-est around, there will be some newer thing only newer cables do).
  - qwerty456127 5y ago
    G-d knows I would hate to spend this much on cables and this is not a negligible amount of money for me either but I would bear this if they wouldn't change the standard every year. USB 3 persisted for long enough, I really hope this hassle with USB-C will end and the things will stabilize for some years.
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morsch 5y ago

I can find cables claiming the same spec (100W, TB3, 2m) for 20-30 EUR. Less if you drop the length requirement -- 2m seems quite long, especially if you're using TB3 to connect a laptop to a display. I agree that there's a place for lower-spec cables that are cheaper and thinner.

brigade 5y ago
They’re almost certainly 20gbps TB3 cables if they have sufficient signal integrity to be in spec. Anyway, the 2m 40gbps cables I have are actually thinner, lighter, and more flexible than either of the 2m 5-10 gbps USB-C cables I have, or even some of the really short and cheap 5gbps cables that come bundles with SSDs. Active cables might be expensive, but at least they allow using higher gauge and/or less shielding for signal wires.
neither_color 5y ago
I use a 12 foot USB-C cable(~3.5 meters) for my VR headset as it has to be long enough to allow me to flail about while streaming PCVR.

qwerty456127 5y ago

> A 2m cable with 100W charging (the highest currently, but not for long) and video using Thunderbolt 3 is £70 inc sales tax, it's also stiffer and heavier than other cables. How many of those do you plan to just have lying around for convenience? I would get 5 if I could be sure they really will work reliably with every device in every case possible and the standard won't change in a couple of months. I almost feel like buying an insurance against this bullshit. And I don't think they can be so heavy to the point it would be relevant. I'd rather buy the hardest I can find as mass positively correlates with reliability in electronics.

jrochkind1 5y ago
That's one option, but not everyone has £350 to spend on cables. (Especially when next year they'll all no longer be the full-featured-est around, there will be some newer thing only newer cables do).
- qwerty456127 5y ago
  G-d knows I would hate to spend this much on cables and this is not a negligible amount of money for me either but I would bear this if they wouldn't change the standard every year. USB 3 persisted for long enough, I really hope this hassle with USB-C will end and the things will stabilize for some years.

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