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Bone – Minimalist Display of Websites

53 points by graderjs 5y ago

bibble 5y ago
Hoped this was going to simplify the CSS on websites, down to just the basics, without fully disabling it :D
- winternett 5y ago
  A new and rebranded return to 1997 HTML? "Web -3.0"? Seriously though UI/UX and Human Design seem to be lost arts these days as template sites took over. Because of mobile phones and many different screen formats, sites are crazy in form and function. We should probably seriously all consider going back to a Human Centered focus, and to revert to the practice of perfectly simplifying function, controls, and features in everything we develop.
  - luxuryballs 5y ago
    Web 0.3!
encryptluks2 5y ago
> Bone is meant as a tool to display websites without the overhead of tabs, decorations, and other interface elements that can make it bloaty. Checks source code... JavaScript. LOL, when will they ever figure it out?
spindle 5y ago
The excellent qutebrowser (and probably several other browsers?) can easily be set up to not have tabs or status bars or anything. I'm sure the other features of Bone are interesting though, like the tiling.
- metalliqaz 5y ago
  F11 in Firefox gets rid of all of it.
  - godDLL 5y ago
    Does that work with tiling? No, right?
metalliqaz 5y ago
tiling is one of those things that always look cool to me on project websites but I would never, ever use myself. I admit I just can't convince myself that people actually use these projects in their day-to-day. Are they just neat projects? Do they just make great screenshots? I always browse in only one of two configurations: maximized window, or two maximized in vertical split (Win+left and Win+Right key combos). Anything smaller, such as giving a page just the lower-right quarter of the screen as in the screenshots, would just be way too small for any modern pages to render in a useful way. Ok so making one split may technically be tiling, but I don't think that's what anyone really means when they are talking about tiling. They're talking about at least three subdivisions. Surely I can't be the only one like this.
- godDLL 5y ago
  I'm on the other end of that spectrum. I can't for the life of me understand why any website would need to have more than a half of my vertical screen. And if the UI design lets me get away with it, less. The only scenarios for a full-screen window in the browser, for me is while watching a video (not always, sometimes) or reading a lengthy single-page thing, or perhaps looking at a cloud provider dashboard with many, many things presented in as much detail as their UX engineer can not contextualize for you. So mostly full screen video, sometimes. Other than that, no, I have things on my screen open for work or context. No fullscreen windows, please.
- csdvrx 5y ago
  In Windows, I have a AHK script that turns a window into a small rectangle at the bottom of my screen, with 70% transparency, always on top, no titlebar: it lets me continue on my current task with minimal distraction, as it's see-through. I use that to keep an eye on long running operations, on notes I take in notepad during a conference call, etc. I press again the key, and the windows becomes another normal window again. I guess that's tiling? Otherwise, I do as you do for most of my apps: I run them in full screen mode, but no task bar, not even a titlebar as I find that too distracting. I strip down most of the details until only the app itself remains. It helps me focus, and remove useless cruft. About cruft, IDE are among the most awful offenders, full of so many ribbons, margins and other gimmicks that they ressemble Word in its hayday ( check https://i.huffpost.com/gen/714057/thumbs/o-MICROSOFT-TOOLBAR-570.jpg https://i.huffpost.com/gen/714057/thumbs/o-MICROSOFT-TOOLBAR... if you don't get what I mean ), with less and less of the screen usable for the actual principal function: writing (and reading)
jokethrowaway 5y ago
If you have a good tiling manager you just need a lightweight single tab browser with mostly shared libraries and one process per window / tab / whatever abstraction is supported by your tiling manager
- godDLL 5y ago
  Yes. Name one.
thih9 5y ago
I think I prefer opening a new browser window; the tab bar isn’t displayed for windows with just a single tab open (at least in safari) and I get to use my system’s window manager.
jareklupinski 5y ago
i like the tiling / layout focus i'm frequently using one tab as a 'reference' while skimming for information in 5+ other tabs, pausing at each one when I find what I need, before I can finally use the product of all the tabs concurrently to finish the thing i'm working on (schematic / layout / datasheet / forum post / github page is a common one) i would love a way to 'split' a single tab into two so i can keep something on one tab in view while I search for the related info in the new split view, then be able to split one of those new tabs into two, then one of those into two... :) windows just managed to figure out "drag window to side of screen to tile" (mac still cant do this!) and it's helped a lot, but when you're trying to fill a 21:9 screen with info just to make sure a specific chip register is on the right bus...
- schwartzworld 5y ago
  Not a browser, but iTerm2 has this functionality built in. I could see how it would be awesome in a browser.
- opan 5y ago
  eww in emacs can do this. Open desired page, then create a split / new window. It defaults to the same buffer you already had open. Scroll one, and the other stays where it is. If you change the web page, they will both change.
fowlie 5y ago
Nice, but this does not make any sense for people who are using tiling window managers. There already exists minimalist web browsers without menu bars etc. like Suckless software's surf, or the qutebrowser.

53 points by graderjs 5y ago

bibble 5y ago

Hoped this was going to simplify the CSS on websites, down to just the basics, without fully disabling it :D

winternett 5y ago
A new and rebranded return to 1997 HTML? "Web -3.0"? Seriously though UI/UX and Human Design seem to be lost arts these days as template sites took over. Because of mobile phones and many different screen formats, sites are crazy in form and function. We should probably seriously all consider going back to a Human Centered focus, and to revert to the practice of perfectly simplifying function, controls, and features in everything we develop.
- luxuryballs 5y ago
  Web 0.3!

encryptluks2 5y ago

> Bone is meant as a tool to display websites without the overhead of tabs, decorations, and other interface elements that can make it bloaty. Checks source code... JavaScript. LOL, when will they ever figure it out?

spindle 5y ago

The excellent qutebrowser (and probably several other browsers?) can easily be set up to not have tabs or status bars or anything. I'm sure the other features of Bone are interesting though, like the tiling.

metalliqaz 5y ago
F11 in Firefox gets rid of all of it.
- godDLL 5y ago
  Does that work with tiling? No, right?

metalliqaz 5y ago

tiling is one of those things that always look cool to me on project websites but I would never, ever use myself. I admit I just can't convince myself that people actually use these projects in their day-to-day. Are they just neat projects? Do they just make great screenshots? I always browse in only one of two configurations: maximized window, or two maximized in vertical split (Win+left and Win+Right key combos). Anything smaller, such as giving a page just the lower-right quarter of the screen as in the screenshots, would just be way too small for any modern pages to render in a useful way. Ok so making one split may technically be tiling, but I don't think that's what anyone really means when they are talking about tiling. They're talking about at least three subdivisions. Surely I can't be the only one like this.

godDLL 5y ago
I'm on the other end of that spectrum. I can't for the life of me understand why any website would need to have more than a half of my vertical screen. And if the UI design lets me get away with it, less. The only scenarios for a full-screen window in the browser, for me is while watching a video (not always, sometimes) or reading a lengthy single-page thing, or perhaps looking at a cloud provider dashboard with many, many things presented in as much detail as their UX engineer can not contextualize for you. So mostly full screen video, sometimes. Other than that, no, I have things on my screen open for work or context. No fullscreen windows, please.
csdvrx 5y ago
In Windows, I have a AHK script that turns a window into a small rectangle at the bottom of my screen, with 70% transparency, always on top, no titlebar: it lets me continue on my current task with minimal distraction, as it's see-through. I use that to keep an eye on long running operations, on notes I take in notepad during a conference call, etc. I press again the key, and the windows becomes another normal window again. I guess that's tiling? Otherwise, I do as you do for most of my apps: I run them in full screen mode, but no task bar, not even a titlebar as I find that too distracting. I strip down most of the details until only the app itself remains. It helps me focus, and remove useless cruft. About cruft, IDE are among the most awful offenders, full of so many ribbons, margins and other gimmicks that they ressemble Word in its hayday ( check https://i.huffpost.com/gen/714057/thumbs/o-MICROSOFT-TOOLBAR-570.jpg https://i.huffpost.com/gen/714057/thumbs/o-MICROSOFT-TOOLBAR... if you don't get what I mean ), with less and less of the screen usable for the actual principal function: writing (and reading)

jokethrowaway 5y ago

If you have a good tiling manager you just need a lightweight single tab browser with mostly shared libraries and one process per window / tab / whatever abstraction is supported by your tiling manager

godDLL 5y ago
Yes. Name one.

thih9 5y ago

I think I prefer opening a new browser window; the tab bar isn’t displayed for windows with just a single tab open (at least in safari) and I get to use my system’s window manager.

jareklupinski 5y ago

i like the tiling / layout focus i'm frequently using one tab as a 'reference' while skimming for information in 5+ other tabs, pausing at each one when I find what I need, before I can finally use the product of all the tabs concurrently to finish the thing i'm working on (schematic / layout / datasheet / forum post / github page is a common one) i would love a way to 'split' a single tab into two so i can keep something on one tab in view while I search for the related info in the new split view, then be able to split one of those new tabs into two, then one of those into two... :) windows just managed to figure out "drag window to side of screen to tile" (mac still cant do this!) and it's helped a lot, but when you're trying to fill a 21:9 screen with info just to make sure a specific chip register is on the right bus...

schwartzworld 5y ago
Not a browser, but iTerm2 has this functionality built in. I could see how it would be awesome in a browser.
opan 5y ago
eww in emacs can do this. Open desired page, then create a split / new window. It defaults to the same buffer you already had open. Scroll one, and the other stays where it is. If you change the web page, they will both change.

fowlie 5y ago

Nice, but this does not make any sense for people who are using tiling window managers. There already exists minimalist web browsers without menu bars etc. like Suckless software's surf, or the qutebrowser.