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have they defined what "hate speech" and "misinformation" mean these days? More often than not these terms are used by one party to silence & suppress opposing

have they defined what "hate speech" and "misinformation" mean these days? More often than not these terms are used by one party to silence & suppress opposing views of another. Thankfully Zuckerberg doesn't give a damn, one would be hard-pressed to find a better CEO for social media company who can stand up to all this whining.

curiousgal 5y ago
Facebook is used all over the world.
lovecg 5y ago
It’s simple really. “All X are Y” where X is an immutable characteristic and Y is something negative = hate speech. “Covid vaccines contain 5G microchips” is misinformation. Do you have any examples of what you’re alluding to?
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- baryphonic 5y ago
  What characteristics are immutable these days?
  - BoHerfVIJrEsq 5y ago
    As far as I can tell, it's banned to be transracial.
  - rocqua 5y ago
    Biological sex, ethnicity, culture of your parents, place of birth. To some extent, your religion.
cratermoon 5y ago
Oppressive Speech: https://doi.org/10.1080/00048400802370334 https://doi.org/10.1080/00048400802370334 Performative Hate Speech Acts. Perlocutionary and Illocutionary Understandings in International Human Rights Law: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334199177_PERFORMATIVE_HATE_SPEECH_ACTS_PERLOCUTIONARY_AND_ILLOCUTIONARY_UNDERSTANDINGS_IN_INTERNATIONAL_HUMAN_RIGHTS_LAW https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334199177_PERFORMAT...
- sayonaraman 5y ago
  the whole concept of "oppression" in modern context holds absolutely no merit, it's a divisive racist view of American culture and it's been used for political gain again and again. Since it's published by supposedly reputable academics I think it's a perfect example of misinformation.
  - cratermoon 5y ago
    There has been oppression and struggle against it for as long as human civilization has existed and writing to record the struggles of the oppressed.
    - BoHerfVIJrEsq 5y ago
      Of course, but when people use that word today they're often talking about something very different from actual persecution.
- chroem- 5y ago
  You are attempting to frame state controls on speech as some form of "liberation". This is quite literally 1984 "Freedom is Slavery" kind of thinking.
  - cratermoon 5y ago
    Can you be more specific? Give examples of what you mean, if you can.
    - chroem- 5y ago
      > “Freedom Is Slavery” because, according to the Party, the man who is independent is doomed to fail. By the same token, “Slavery Is Freedom,” because the man subjected to the collective will is free from danger and want.
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curiousgal 5y ago

Facebook is used all over the world.

lovecg 5y ago

It’s simple really. “All X are Y” where X is an immutable characteristic and Y is something negative = hate speech. “Covid vaccines contain 5G microchips” is misinformation. Do you have any examples of what you’re alluding to?

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baryphonic 5y ago
What characteristics are immutable these days?
- BoHerfVIJrEsq 5y ago
  As far as I can tell, it's banned to be transracial.
- rocqua 5y ago
  Biological sex, ethnicity, culture of your parents, place of birth. To some extent, your religion.

cratermoon 5y ago

Oppressive Speech: https://doi.org/10.1080/00048400802370334 https://doi.org/10.1080/00048400802370334 Performative Hate Speech Acts. Perlocutionary and Illocutionary Understandings in International Human Rights Law: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334199177_PERFORMATIVE_HATE_SPEECH_ACTS_PERLOCUTIONARY_AND_ILLOCUTIONARY_UNDERSTANDINGS_IN_INTERNATIONAL_HUMAN_RIGHTS_LAW https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334199177_PERFORMAT...

sayonaraman 5y ago
the whole concept of "oppression" in modern context holds absolutely no merit, it's a divisive racist view of American culture and it's been used for political gain again and again. Since it's published by supposedly reputable academics I think it's a perfect example of misinformation.
- cratermoon 5y ago
  There has been oppression and struggle against it for as long as human civilization has existed and writing to record the struggles of the oppressed.
  - BoHerfVIJrEsq 5y ago
    Of course, but when people use that word today they're often talking about something very different from actual persecution.
chroem- 5y ago
You are attempting to frame state controls on speech as some form of "liberation". This is quite literally 1984 "Freedom is Slavery" kind of thinking.
- cratermoon 5y ago
  Can you be more specific? Give examples of what you mean, if you can.
  - chroem- 5y ago
    > “Freedom Is Slavery” because, according to the Party, the man who is independent is doomed to fail. By the same token, “Slavery Is Freedom,” because the man subjected to the collective will is free from danger and want.
    - 5y ago

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