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And when we do show sex, it's in ways where it's always "complicated". Sex, according to the mainstream, must involve some sort of transgressive participation.

And when we do show sex, it's in ways where it's always "complicated". Sex, according to the mainstream, must involve some sort of transgressive participation. You must be committing adultery, or be "in the closet", or committing incest, or doing it with total disregard for responsibilities, or doing it in inappropriate circumstances, or by committing rape. Unless you're watching a deliberately romantic film, I don't know how anyone can get a positive impression of sex or even associate sex with love by watching what's on streaming services.

Koshkin 5y ago
Would you find interesting a movie in which people shoot at cardboard figures instead of each other?
- ravenstine 5y ago
  To suggest that films must feature graphic violence is like saying that comedy can't be funny unless it involves swearing.
  - Joeboy 5y ago
    No, but drama does require drama. People having a nice time together is not dramatic.
Zababa 5y ago
That's a different point. People don't show "normal" sex in movies for the same reasons they don't show people eating, going to the toilet and that sort of stuff.
- Koshkin 5y ago
  > they don't show But they do! (And I agree with the general sentiment.)
- ravenstine 5y ago
  You're taking my point to an extreme that obviously wasn't my intent. I never said that all sex in entertainment must be missionary position under sheets with the lights off between a Christian husband and wife. First of all, it's rather interesting that you equate sex to taking a shit. But also, what have you been watching to conclude that they don't show people eating on-screen? It's rather common, especially in film, to have characters eating real food. the primary reason it's not as frequent as in real life is because having actors eat food is actually a complicated thing to with multiple takes while maintaining continuity.
  - Zababa 5y ago
    > I never said that all sex in entertainment must be missionary position under sheets with the lights off between a Christian husband and wife. I don't think I've said that you said that either? My point was that they mostly show things that are relevant, and that since most movies focus on the extraordinary, regular sex is shown less and extraordinary sex is shown more. > First of all, it's rather interesting that you equate sex to taking a shit. Is it? I don't really see how. > But also, what have you been watching to conclude that they don't show people eating on-screen? It's rather common, especially in film, to have characters eating real food. the primary reason it's not as frequent as in real life is because having actors eat food is actually a complicated thing to with multiple takes while maintaining continuity. Again, food scenes are show when they are relevant. If you see a movie that happens on three days, you won't see people eat 9 times. You may see them eating once in the morning to show that the father doesn't have much time for his family, or something like that, but you won't see everything. The "ordinary stuff" is a small part of what happens in movies, because most movies aren't made to show it, they are made to show extreme things.
- quantified 5y ago
  People eat in movies all the time. Hitting the toilet, no. Guys don’t think about going to the toilet every few minutes for the majority of adulthood. People’s hormonal drives don’t push them into social near-life decisions for other sorts of stuff besides sex.
  - Zababa 5y ago
    That's fair, and that also explains why "unregular" sex is shown the most, and not "healthy/regular" sex.
    - quantified 5y ago
      How do you mean “unregular”? Lots of movies are showing consummation of desire, or otherwise healthy sex in maybe risky or unwise circumstances. Films like Girl with the Dragon Tattoo show maltreatment and restorative sex both. I’ve heard that porn tends to unregular, but I haven’t made time for that research, the porn I’ve seen would be worth aspiring to.
- LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
  Doesn't have to be like that, though! [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNnRLD17Uh8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNnRLD17Uh8 Perfectly safe for enslaved workers, btw.! :-)

Koshkin 5y ago

Would you find interesting a movie in which people shoot at cardboard figures instead of each other?

ravenstine 5y ago
To suggest that films must feature graphic violence is like saying that comedy can't be funny unless it involves swearing.
- Joeboy 5y ago
  No, but drama does require drama. People having a nice time together is not dramatic.

Zababa 5y ago

That's a different point. People don't show "normal" sex in movies for the same reasons they don't show people eating, going to the toilet and that sort of stuff.

Koshkin 5y ago
> they don't show But they do! (And I agree with the general sentiment.)
ravenstine 5y ago
You're taking my point to an extreme that obviously wasn't my intent. I never said that all sex in entertainment must be missionary position under sheets with the lights off between a Christian husband and wife. First of all, it's rather interesting that you equate sex to taking a shit. But also, what have you been watching to conclude that they don't show people eating on-screen? It's rather common, especially in film, to have characters eating real food. the primary reason it's not as frequent as in real life is because having actors eat food is actually a complicated thing to with multiple takes while maintaining continuity.
- Zababa 5y ago
  > I never said that all sex in entertainment must be missionary position under sheets with the lights off between a Christian husband and wife. I don't think I've said that you said that either? My point was that they mostly show things that are relevant, and that since most movies focus on the extraordinary, regular sex is shown less and extraordinary sex is shown more. > First of all, it's rather interesting that you equate sex to taking a shit. Is it? I don't really see how. > But also, what have you been watching to conclude that they don't show people eating on-screen? It's rather common, especially in film, to have characters eating real food. the primary reason it's not as frequent as in real life is because having actors eat food is actually a complicated thing to with multiple takes while maintaining continuity. Again, food scenes are show when they are relevant. If you see a movie that happens on three days, you won't see people eat 9 times. You may see them eating once in the morning to show that the father doesn't have much time for his family, or something like that, but you won't see everything. The "ordinary stuff" is a small part of what happens in movies, because most movies aren't made to show it, they are made to show extreme things.
quantified 5y ago
People eat in movies all the time. Hitting the toilet, no. Guys don’t think about going to the toilet every few minutes for the majority of adulthood. People’s hormonal drives don’t push them into social near-life decisions for other sorts of stuff besides sex.
- Zababa 5y ago
  That's fair, and that also explains why "unregular" sex is shown the most, and not "healthy/regular" sex.
  - quantified 5y ago
    How do you mean “unregular”? Lots of movies are showing consummation of desire, or otherwise healthy sex in maybe risky or unwise circumstances. Films like Girl with the Dragon Tattoo show maltreatment and restorative sex both. I’ve heard that porn tends to unregular, but I haven’t made time for that research, the porn I’ve seen would be worth aspiring to.
LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
Doesn't have to be like that, though! [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNnRLD17Uh8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNnRLD17Uh8 Perfectly safe for enslaved workers, btw.! :-)