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Is it customary for you to dismiss reporting as propaganda without reading it? Understood about the paywall, and I don't always like NYT reporting either, but t

Is it customary for you to dismiss reporting as propaganda without reading it? Understood about the paywall, and I don't always like NYT reporting either, but there are plenty of accounts of unvaccinated people getting COVID and regretting their decision out there. Often young and healthy. News articles aside, state statistics of COVID hospitalization and death show a clear, dramatic correlation with % of the population unvaccinated. Is that all fake? Is there a conspiracy to fake all statistics that clash with your worldview? Wouldn't that be a bit too convenient of a way to dismiss anything that doesn't confirm your beliefs? Do you ever wonder if the media people telling you about media deception should include themselves in the critique? There's no shortage of documented deception by Stossel and other Fox personalities. Who watches the watchmen? Can we dismiss some as propaganda without reading while blindly accepting others? Isn't that how progressives sometimes get in trouble, by summarily dismissing evidence that doesn't fit their beliefs? Does it make sense for non-progressives to do the same thing? All vaccines are complex products of science and factory processes. Do you distrust all of them, or just the new one?

artificialLimbs 5y ago
>> Often young and healthy. This is demonstrably false. Most people who have died from covid have other complications or are overweight or old. Source: https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-by-Sex-and-Age/9bhg-hcku https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-by-Sex... As for some of your other claims and questions, most of which are obviously disingenuous, here is some further research: https://www.disclose.tv/the-covid-network-an-analysis/ https://www.disclose.tv/the-covid-network-an-analysis/ https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/dr-michael-palmer-catherine-austin-fitts-interview-understanding-medical-economic-covid-motives/ https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/dr-michael-palmer-ca... https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=2zoSSHx9QtA https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=2zoSSHx9QtA https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/idaho-doctor-reports-a-20-times-increase-of-cancer-in-vaccinated-patients/ https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/idaho-doctor-reports-a-20-... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wU8P74RsPSA?app=desktop&feature=share https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wU8P74RsPSA?app=desktop&featu... https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cdc-tightened-masking-guidelines-after-threats-from-teachers-union https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cdc-tightened-masking-guide... https://newswithviews.com/fda-caves-under-immense-corruption/ https://newswithviews.com/fda-caves-under-immense-corruption... Edit: formatting
- civilized 5y ago
  1. "Often" doesn't mean "the majority". About 12% of COVID deaths were under 50 in September, and 4% were under 40. COVID is one of the biggest causes of death in both age groups. You can verify all of this with a couple clicks on https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm 2. Disingenuous doesn't mean "disagrees with me". 3. A problem with blindly trusting sources from only one side is not improved by indiscriminately citing many more sources from that same side. Especially when one of those sources claims that "post-vaccine" deaths vastly outnumber COVID deaths. If the author is convinced that "post-vaccine" deaths are due to the vaccine, he should sound the alarm on the number of old people that die "post-waking-up-in-the-morning". This is an actual example of disingenuity, by the way. Or credulously citing a single Idaho doctor's anecdotal observation, while his state's hospitals deal with an unprecedented capacity crisis as the unvaccinated flood in. Will you hold yourself responsible for being so gullible when it turns out to be fraud, error, or a sensationalized coincidence unrelated to the vaccine? Or will you simply move on to the next batch of nonsense? Do you actually care if your beliefs have any connection to reality, or is blind trust in one side's propaganda sufficient to satisfy your intellectual curiosity? Anyway, I see from your response that you're no longer listening to what I say. The sources you cite aren't really answering any of my questions or rebutting any of my claims. So I have nothing further to say beyond what I said in my last post. See you later and good luck out there.

artificialLimbs 5y ago

>> Often young and healthy. This is demonstrably false. Most people who have died from covid have other complications or are overweight or old. Source: https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-by-Sex-and-Age/9bhg-hcku https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-by-Sex... As for some of your other claims and questions, most of which are obviously disingenuous, here is some further research: https://www.disclose.tv/the-covid-network-an-analysis/ https://www.disclose.tv/the-covid-network-an-analysis/ https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/dr-michael-palmer-catherine-austin-fitts-interview-understanding-medical-economic-covid-motives/ https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/dr-michael-palmer-ca... https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=2zoSSHx9QtA https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=2zoSSHx9QtA https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/idaho-doctor-reports-a-20-times-increase-of-cancer-in-vaccinated-patients/ https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/idaho-doctor-reports-a-20-... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wU8P74RsPSA?app=desktop&feature=share https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wU8P74RsPSA?app=desktop&featu... https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cdc-tightened-masking-guidelines-after-threats-from-teachers-union https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cdc-tightened-masking-guide... https://newswithviews.com/fda-caves-under-immense-corruption/ https://newswithviews.com/fda-caves-under-immense-corruption... Edit: formatting

civilized 5y ago
1. "Often" doesn't mean "the majority". About 12% of COVID deaths were under 50 in September, and 4% were under 40. COVID is one of the biggest causes of death in both age groups. You can verify all of this with a couple clicks on https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm 2. Disingenuous doesn't mean "disagrees with me". 3. A problem with blindly trusting sources from only one side is not improved by indiscriminately citing many more sources from that same side. Especially when one of those sources claims that "post-vaccine" deaths vastly outnumber COVID deaths. If the author is convinced that "post-vaccine" deaths are due to the vaccine, he should sound the alarm on the number of old people that die "post-waking-up-in-the-morning". This is an actual example of disingenuity, by the way. Or credulously citing a single Idaho doctor's anecdotal observation, while his state's hospitals deal with an unprecedented capacity crisis as the unvaccinated flood in. Will you hold yourself responsible for being so gullible when it turns out to be fraud, error, or a sensationalized coincidence unrelated to the vaccine? Or will you simply move on to the next batch of nonsense? Do you actually care if your beliefs have any connection to reality, or is blind trust in one side's propaganda sufficient to satisfy your intellectual curiosity? Anyway, I see from your response that you're no longer listening to what I say. The sources you cite aren't really answering any of my questions or rebutting any of my claims. So I have nothing further to say beyond what I said in my last post. See you later and good luck out there.