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They've moved to TV shows... Hard to watch any (American) Netflix series without an unnecessary sex scene every 6-8 minutes.

by gfosco 5y ago

28736947 5y ago
We really are living in the New Puritan age. “Unnecessary sex scenes”? I’ve never needed a reason to see people having sex. When did everyone get so repressed?
- Koshkin 5y ago
  In art, there’s always been a difference between the significance of “having sex” and that of “having breakfast.”
asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
I don't see too much nudity in Netflix shows. Which ones specifically are you thinking about? There are definitely plenty of "bra-on" sex scenes that cut away early in the act, but I don't think that's what the author is talking of.
- gfosco 5y ago
  I didn't mention nudity, so yeah I'm including non-nude scenes where that's obviously what's going on and it's not adding anything useful to the story.
- newby 5y ago
  Uh, bra-on scenes - I hate them, not because I need to see the boobies so much, but because of the intense feeling of fakeness that takes me out of the movie to seeing just two actors pretending something. I hate the bra-on scenes almost as much as I hate the cliché scene where the two in bed are breathing so heavily (to show you they just finished having sex you did not see in the movie) as if they had just finished olympic 400m final.
nicolas_t 5y ago
Could you give an example of unnecessary sex scenes? I watch netflix shows often enough and can't think of a show that had a unnecessary sex scenes every 6-8 minutes. The one "exception" that comes to mind with a lot of sex scenes are Sex Education and Sexify but for those shows the sex scenes are hardly unnecessary given the subject matter. I'm not trolling or trying to be argumentative here, I'm genuinely trying to think of series with unnecessary sex scene every 6-8 minutes.
- Bud 5y ago
  This isn't really that hard. Bridgerton, for instance.
  - TedDoesntTalk 5y ago
    Now I’m going to watch that. Thanks!
  - raldi 5y ago
    How would you have told the story of Bridgerton without sex scenes?
    - Bud 5y ago
      Don't get me wrong, I fully support all the sex scenes in Bridgerton. I thought they were very well done.
  - knolan 5y ago
    It’s a show about horny confused teenagers being married off to each other in some alternative history. Sex scenes couldn’t be more relevant to this show.
  - kthejoker2 5y ago
    Lol 1 example out of 8,000 series, and you list the one that is explicitly developed for Harlequin romance readers. If only you had named SexLife ...
monkeyodeath 5y ago
What, pray tell, constitutes "necessary" in art? People act like the only point of narrative work is to tell a story and advance a plot, forgetting that some of the greatest novels, plays, and movies of all time have creaky plots and barely-there stories, and plenty of "unnecessary" stuff.
- Zababa 5y ago
  I don't think the discussion is around "art", considering the examples given in the article. It's mostly about mass media.
  - monkeyodeath 5y ago
    True. I guess it's pretty much just product (or should I say "content") that we're discussing, despite all the lip service given to the idea that it's this really creative endeavor.
  - Brian_K_White 5y ago
    Ok, so they should have asked "What constitutes 'necessary' in entertainment?" So what? The new question with the approved honest accurate words, not like that original agenda'd deceptive one, still stands.
    - Zababa 5y ago
      > So what? I think the difference is that "What constitutes necessary in art?" is pretty much a closed debate, as it's related to the nature of art, while for entertainment it's a bit different, as it's often (at least in that case it is) made for mass consumption. Since it's made for mass consumption, you can more easily argue about their moral responsibilities than with "art". > The new question with the approved honest accurate words, not like that original agenda'd deceptive one, still stands. It does, and I don't have a good answer to it.

They've moved to TV shows... Hard to watch any (American) Netflix series without an unnecessary sex scene every 6-8 minutes.

by gfosco 5y ago

They've moved to TV shows... Hard to watch any (American) Netflix series without an unnecessary sex scene every 6-8 minutes.

28736947 5y ago

We really are living in the New Puritan age. “Unnecessary sex scenes”? I’ve never needed a reason to see people having sex. When did everyone get so repressed?

Koshkin 5y ago
In art, there’s always been a difference between the significance of “having sex” and that of “having breakfast.”

asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago

I don't see too much nudity in Netflix shows. Which ones specifically are you thinking about? There are definitely plenty of "bra-on" sex scenes that cut away early in the act, but I don't think that's what the author is talking of.

gfosco 5y ago
I didn't mention nudity, so yeah I'm including non-nude scenes where that's obviously what's going on and it's not adding anything useful to the story.
newby 5y ago
Uh, bra-on scenes - I hate them, not because I need to see the boobies so much, but because of the intense feeling of fakeness that takes me out of the movie to seeing just two actors pretending something. I hate the bra-on scenes almost as much as I hate the cliché scene where the two in bed are breathing so heavily (to show you they just finished having sex you did not see in the movie) as if they had just finished olympic 400m final.

nicolas_t 5y ago

Could you give an example of unnecessary sex scenes? I watch netflix shows often enough and can't think of a show that had a unnecessary sex scenes every 6-8 minutes. The one "exception" that comes to mind with a lot of sex scenes are Sex Education and Sexify but for those shows the sex scenes are hardly unnecessary given the subject matter. I'm not trolling or trying to be argumentative here, I'm genuinely trying to think of series with unnecessary sex scene every 6-8 minutes.

Bud 5y ago
This isn't really that hard. Bridgerton, for instance.
- TedDoesntTalk 5y ago
  Now I’m going to watch that. Thanks!
- raldi 5y ago
  How would you have told the story of Bridgerton without sex scenes?
  - Bud 5y ago
    Don't get me wrong, I fully support all the sex scenes in Bridgerton. I thought they were very well done.
- knolan 5y ago
  It’s a show about horny confused teenagers being married off to each other in some alternative history. Sex scenes couldn’t be more relevant to this show.
- kthejoker2 5y ago
  Lol 1 example out of 8,000 series, and you list the one that is explicitly developed for Harlequin romance readers. If only you had named SexLife ...

monkeyodeath 5y ago

What, pray tell, constitutes "necessary" in art? People act like the only point of narrative work is to tell a story and advance a plot, forgetting that some of the greatest novels, plays, and movies of all time have creaky plots and barely-there stories, and plenty of "unnecessary" stuff.

Zababa 5y ago
I don't think the discussion is around "art", considering the examples given in the article. It's mostly about mass media.
- monkeyodeath 5y ago
  True. I guess it's pretty much just product (or should I say "content") that we're discussing, despite all the lip service given to the idea that it's this really creative endeavor.
- Brian_K_White 5y ago
  Ok, so they should have asked "What constitutes 'necessary' in entertainment?" So what? The new question with the approved honest accurate words, not like that original agenda'd deceptive one, still stands.
  - Zababa 5y ago
    > So what? I think the difference is that "What constitutes necessary in art?" is pretty much a closed debate, as it's related to the nature of art, while for entertainment it's a bit different, as it's often (at least in that case it is) made for mass consumption. Since it's made for mass consumption, you can more easily argue about their moral responsibilities than with "art". > The new question with the approved honest accurate words, not like that original agenda'd deceptive one, still stands. It does, and I don't have a good answer to it.