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>> everyone has to use facebook You suggest that life without _any_ social networking platform would be bad. All of human history before Y2K would suggest othe

>> everyone has to use facebook You suggest that life without _any_ social networking platform would be bad. All of human history before Y2K would suggest otherwise. There are lots of ways (even on the Internet) to socially network without using Facebook (or whoever you currently think of as a Facebook compeditor). Or, dare I suggest it, socialising without the Internet?

barsonme 5y ago
Heh, this is sort of similar to what was thinking when I wrote my original comment. I haven’t used my Facebook (that I made in like 2007) in a few years, and I finally got around to deactivating it a week ago. Doing so was painless—it’s all voluntary, of course, and I have plenty of (healthier) avenues to maintain relationships with my friends and family. But the same doesn’t apply to my country! I can’t painlessly “deactivate” my citizenship and be rid of the government whenever it does something bad. De-Googling your life is annoying, but not impossible. De-United-States-ifying your life is… way different :)
pyrale 5y ago
> All of human history before Y2K would suggest otherwise. Prior to centralized social networks, there were _many_ tools that have been abandoned since. For instance, you would have smaller internet boards dedicated to a specific hobby or a geographic area (many of these died out). Before that, you had fanzines, local community congregation points like bars and such. But those either disappeared, or their use changed (e.g. bars as a point to meet existing friends rather than to make new acquaintances). It is a common pattern for new technologies to displace existing tools, which means that people refusing the new technology usually end up in a worse situation than before the technology appeared.
harimau777 5y ago
Socializing isn't something that someone can do as an individual. If the people you want to socialize with communicate using FB then you need to do so as well if you wish to communicate with them. In addition, socializing is often at least somewhat "competitive". If you are less able to network then you will be at a disadvantage when seeking a job. If you are more difficult to communicate with, then you are likely to be left out of group decisions; even if by accident. If you are advocating a political position, then not having access to the most popular communication platforms is a major handycap.

barsonme 5y ago

Heh, this is sort of similar to what was thinking when I wrote my original comment. I haven’t used my Facebook (that I made in like 2007) in a few years, and I finally got around to deactivating it a week ago. Doing so was painless—it’s all voluntary, of course, and I have plenty of (healthier) avenues to maintain relationships with my friends and family. But the same doesn’t apply to my country! I can’t painlessly “deactivate” my citizenship and be rid of the government whenever it does something bad. De-Googling your life is annoying, but not impossible. De-United-States-ifying your life is… way different :)

pyrale 5y ago

> All of human history before Y2K would suggest otherwise. Prior to centralized social networks, there were _many_ tools that have been abandoned since. For instance, you would have smaller internet boards dedicated to a specific hobby or a geographic area (many of these died out). Before that, you had fanzines, local community congregation points like bars and such. But those either disappeared, or their use changed (e.g. bars as a point to meet existing friends rather than to make new acquaintances). It is a common pattern for new technologies to displace existing tools, which means that people refusing the new technology usually end up in a worse situation than before the technology appeared.

harimau777 5y ago

Socializing isn't something that someone can do as an individual. If the people you want to socialize with communicate using FB then you need to do so as well if you wish to communicate with them. In addition, socializing is often at least somewhat "competitive". If you are less able to network then you will be at a disadvantage when seeking a job. If you are more difficult to communicate with, then you are likely to be left out of group decisions; even if by accident. If you are advocating a political position, then not having access to the most popular communication platforms is a major handycap.