I like the mission, but it is hard to argue that the 16th and mission area isn't dirty and seedy. Also, the mission does indeed have the city's highest crime ra

I like the mission, but it is hard to argue that the 16th and mission area isn't dirty and seedy. Also, the mission does indeed have the city's highest crime rate. You can verify this with everyblock or the city's own crime mapping system. I'm surprised you consider it inexpensive... I moved out of the mission because I thought I was paying far too much to live around so much noise. Somehow I ended up with a cheaper place in one of the nicest (but non-hip) neighborhoods in town. The upper mission by dolores is great but that is more like noe valley lite and is definitely expensive. Finally, Muddy Waters has some of the worst coffee in town. Ritual is probably the best choice for a mission meetup. What is "nd?" There is a coffee shop in town that I don't know about???