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> a remarkable resurgence of what was written of as terminally wounded after the fall of the Soviet Union - socialism and communism Genuine question - could yo

> a remarkable resurgence of what was written of as terminally wounded after the fall of the Soviet Union - socialism and communism Genuine question - could you tell me more about this "remarkable resurgence"? What are you referring to here?

SyzygistSix 5y ago
Many opponents of the social programs common in Western Europe consider their popularity and support among younger generations in the US a sign that communism and socialism are popular.
- yesenadam 5y ago
  Ah ok, thank you!
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- hagbard_c 5y ago
  Those social programs are unrelated to socialism and communism - social democracy is not socialism-light as some people seem to think. Socialism, the "dictatorship of the proletariat" and its supposed destination of communism, the "classless state" centre around state ownership of the means of production. Social democracy makes no such claims, it aims to spread the gains of the economy over a larger part of society. That economy tends to be some form of controlled capitalism. In other words there is no contradiction between supporting European-style social programs and the insight that socialism and communism should be put in the same corner as fascism and national socialism for being destructive and dysfunctional ideologies.
hagbard_c 5y ago
Take the example of a party - Vänsterpartiet in Sweden - which' up-and-coming politicians openly state their aim is to create a communist society [1] gaining close to 10% of the vote, nearly doubling their size. They are the biggest party among young women (18-29) [2], gaining ~24% of the vote. These women are voting for a party which is fine with their up-and-coming party elite aiming to make Sweden a communist state. It is written into their program, not just some quote from a random person. [1] https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/ung-vanster-vart-mal-ar-ett-kommunistiskt-samhalle https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/ung-vanster-vart-mal-ar-e... [2] https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/svt-novus-tjejerna-valjer-v-och-killarna-valjer-sd https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/svt-novus-tjejerna-valjer...

SyzygistSix 5y ago

Many opponents of the social programs common in Western Europe consider their popularity and support among younger generations in the US a sign that communism and socialism are popular.

yesenadam 5y ago
Ah ok, thank you!
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hagbard_c 5y ago
Those social programs are unrelated to socialism and communism - social democracy is not socialism-light as some people seem to think. Socialism, the "dictatorship of the proletariat" and its supposed destination of communism, the "classless state" centre around state ownership of the means of production. Social democracy makes no such claims, it aims to spread the gains of the economy over a larger part of society. That economy tends to be some form of controlled capitalism. In other words there is no contradiction between supporting European-style social programs and the insight that socialism and communism should be put in the same corner as fascism and national socialism for being destructive and dysfunctional ideologies.

hagbard_c 5y ago

Take the example of a party - Vänsterpartiet in Sweden - which' up-and-coming politicians openly state their aim is to create a communist society [1] gaining close to 10% of the vote, nearly doubling their size. They are the biggest party among young women (18-29) [2], gaining ~24% of the vote. These women are voting for a party which is fine with their up-and-coming party elite aiming to make Sweden a communist state. It is written into their program, not just some quote from a random person. [1] https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/ung-vanster-vart-mal-ar-ett-kommunistiskt-samhalle https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/ung-vanster-vart-mal-ar-e... [2] https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/svt-novus-tjejerna-valjer-v-och-killarna-valjer-sd https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/svt-novus-tjejerna-valjer...