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8th generation :) I started their "PC health app" today and got told my Core i7 7700HQ is too old.

noxer 5y ago
It doesn't matter what it says. It only checks for OEM requirements and thus only lists new CPUs that are still being produced/shipped in new hardware. If you look at the same requirements for Windows 10 21H1 [1] it will not list old CPUs even if they where listed for older versions of win 10 and have no problem running 21H1. [1]https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-10-21h1-supported-intel-processors https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/min... Fact is the current version of win 11 runs on any 64-bit CPU you can find I tested it on a T7500 from the early 2006. Its maxed out for 30 seconds after booting but other than that no problem running the OS.
- joconde 5y ago
  They did say that these older CPUs weren't entitled to Windows updates though (https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/28/22646035/microsoft-windows-11-iso-workaround-no-update-guarantee https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/28/22646035/microsoft-window...). This is probably worse than being denied the upgrade in the first place...
  - noxer 5y ago
    But its factually nonsense and in the end it does not matter what theverge say. What matters is the reality. The reality is you can run win11 on old CPUs. You can update win10 to win11. And you do receive updates. BUT if for some reason something is not compatible and it fails, MS like wont fix it if its related to old hardware. Also if new features are being added that do not work on old hardware then this may break the OS or certain parts and MS can point to the fact that you run unsupported hardware. That is how it always has been. You are on your own if you ignore recommendations but nothing is really denied. Skipping the CPU checks is one google search away for anyone who wants to.
    - joconde 5y ago
      Well, I don't know what Microsoft is going to add to their future updates, all I know is that they felt it was important enough to go out of their way and tell me they didn't guarantee I would always get updates. I don't want to switch over to it and discover that some 8-th gen CPU feature is needed for a Windows 11 feature I don't need, and have to go back to 10 to get security updates. > That is how it always has been. Previous Windows versions were guaranteed to keep working on the CPU models they could run on at launch. Sure, it could just be a trick by MS to boost sales, but I don't think they like the PR drawback about planned obsolescence.

It doesn't matter what it says. It only checks for OEM requirements and thus only lists new CPUs that are still being produced/shipped in new hardware. If you look at the same requirements for Windows 10 21H1 [1] it will not list old CPUs even if they where listed for older versions of win 10 and have no problem running 21H1. [1]https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-10-21h1-supported-intel-processors https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/min... Fact is the current version of win 11 runs on any 64-bit CPU you can find I tested it on a T7500 from the early 2006. Its maxed out for 30 seconds after booting but other than that no problem running the OS.

joconde 5y ago
They did say that these older CPUs weren't entitled to Windows updates though (https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/28/22646035/microsoft-windows-11-iso-workaround-no-update-guarantee https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/28/22646035/microsoft-window...). This is probably worse than being denied the upgrade in the first place...
- noxer 5y ago
  But its factually nonsense and in the end it does not matter what theverge say. What matters is the reality. The reality is you can run win11 on old CPUs. You can update win10 to win11. And you do receive updates. BUT if for some reason something is not compatible and it fails, MS like wont fix it if its related to old hardware. Also if new features are being added that do not work on old hardware then this may break the OS or certain parts and MS can point to the fact that you run unsupported hardware. That is how it always has been. You are on your own if you ignore recommendations but nothing is really denied. Skipping the CPU checks is one google search away for anyone who wants to.
  - joconde 5y ago
    Well, I don't know what Microsoft is going to add to their future updates, all I know is that they felt it was important enough to go out of their way and tell me they didn't guarantee I would always get updates. I don't want to switch over to it and discover that some 8-th gen CPU feature is needed for a Windows 11 feature I don't need, and have to go back to 10 to get security updates. > That is how it always has been. Previous Windows versions were guaranteed to keep working on the CPU models they could run on at launch. Sure, it could just be a trick by MS to boost sales, but I don't think they like the PR drawback about planned obsolescence.