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> But so far, I have resisted the notion of having cameras all over the place, peering inside the home's interior spaces. Sure, I have some Ring devices guardin

> But so far, I have resisted the notion of having cameras all over the place, peering inside the home's interior spaces. Sure, I have some Ring devices guarding the front of the house, but there's nothing recording inside. > I live in a gated community with only one way in and out, and I'm alerted immediately if someone should be let through if they aren't on my regular list. The whole tone of the article as I read it was Security & Privacy for me, not for thee (people in my community, my dogs, my hypothetical kids).

heavyset_go 5y ago
> The whole tone of the article as I read it was Security & Privacy for me, not for thee (people in my community, my dogs, my hypothetical kids). I sometimes jog and walk at night, especially when I had clients outside of my timezone. Some busybody reported one of their Ring videos of me walking past their house at night to the police, and for a while there I'd be stopped by beat cops for simply walking around my neighborhood. It's a surreal feeling knowing that you're being surveilled by just leaving your home and walking around the block.
- ashtonkem 5y ago
  Ring and Nextdoor turns people into paranoid nutters. Unfortunately the impact of these services is much wider than the users themselves, as your story shows.
  - katbyte 5y ago
    I imagine they were tat way before just now we’re seeing it.
    - ashtonkem 5y ago
      Possible. My personal experience is that these apps increased my anxiety significantly until I got rid of them. I live in an incredibly safe city, and yet they were making me feel unsafe. So I replaced my ring with a more privacy protecting and social media-free alternative, because video doorbells are very convenient still.
      - function_seven 5y ago
        You mind recommending your solution? I'm running a cheap Wyze cam in my front window (with a view of the porch, and RTSP firmware to stream to MotionEye) But it's still Wyze, kinda sucks, and I'd rather have an actual fisheye camera and doorbell rather than a creepy camera peering out the window.
        ashtonkem 5y ago
        I’m using an Amcrest AD110 for my doorbell, and Reolink for external cameras. The Reolink cameras are PoE and behave nicely on my network. I’m also running a nicer network setup that lets me put these cameras on another vlan for security. Currently I’m experimenting with Frigate as my NVR for object identification and clip tracking.
- rsynnott 5y ago
  While I'm not a huge fan of these devices, that more seems like a cultural problem than anything else. Why on earth would anyone be concerned about someone walking at night? That seems... normal. I'm pretty sure when I go for a walk (since WFH, mostly late at night) I show up on _hundreds_ of cameras, mostly business and traffic CCTV systems (it's an urban area). That doesn't bother me. It would very much bother me if my neighbours were reporting me to the police, though; that's a neighbour problem, not a camera problem.

heavyset_go 5y ago

> The whole tone of the article as I read it was Security & Privacy for me, not for thee (people in my community, my dogs, my hypothetical kids). I sometimes jog and walk at night, especially when I had clients outside of my timezone. Some busybody reported one of their Ring videos of me walking past their house at night to the police, and for a while there I'd be stopped by beat cops for simply walking around my neighborhood. It's a surreal feeling knowing that you're being surveilled by just leaving your home and walking around the block.

ashtonkem 5y ago
Ring and Nextdoor turns people into paranoid nutters. Unfortunately the impact of these services is much wider than the users themselves, as your story shows.
- katbyte 5y ago
  I imagine they were tat way before just now we’re seeing it.
  - ashtonkem 5y ago
    Possible. My personal experience is that these apps increased my anxiety significantly until I got rid of them. I live in an incredibly safe city, and yet they were making me feel unsafe. So I replaced my ring with a more privacy protecting and social media-free alternative, because video doorbells are very convenient still.
    - function_seven 5y ago
      You mind recommending your solution? I'm running a cheap Wyze cam in my front window (with a view of the porch, and RTSP firmware to stream to MotionEye) But it's still Wyze, kinda sucks, and I'd rather have an actual fisheye camera and doorbell rather than a creepy camera peering out the window.
      - ashtonkem 5y ago
        I’m using an Amcrest AD110 for my doorbell, and Reolink for external cameras. The Reolink cameras are PoE and behave nicely on my network. I’m also running a nicer network setup that lets me put these cameras on another vlan for security. Currently I’m experimenting with Frigate as my NVR for object identification and clip tracking.
rsynnott 5y ago
While I'm not a huge fan of these devices, that more seems like a cultural problem than anything else. Why on earth would anyone be concerned about someone walking at night? That seems... normal. I'm pretty sure when I go for a walk (since WFH, mostly late at night) I show up on _hundreds_ of cameras, mostly business and traffic CCTV systems (it's an urban area). That doesn't bother me. It would very much bother me if my neighbours were reporting me to the police, though; that's a neighbour problem, not a camera problem.