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You're factually correct, but one of the CEO's functions is maintaining morale amongst employees by at least appearing to exercise inspiring leadership. I don't

You're factually correct, but one of the CEO's functions is maintaining morale amongst employees by at least appearing to exercise inspiring leadership. I don't know enough about the company to blame Carson for its failure, but optics matter in his role.

jjcon 5y ago
On the other hand morale will never be good among people who see an ig post of a selfie during a tropical storm and try to spin it as: > Carson enjoys a climate-related disaster These people will never experience happiness and high morale
- Lightbody 5y ago
  Meh. I’m pretty annoyed about over-the-top wokeness too, but this was shit management. It is understandable that people would be furious and thus inclined to amplify every slight.
- bendbro 5y ago
  They hated jjcon because he told the truth.
  - dylan604 5y ago
    forgive for not being cool and hip, but what's a jjcon?
    - bendbro 5y ago
      You're still cool and hip. jjcon is the commenter I responded to
      - dylan604 5y ago
        Doh! I tried searching internet, but not this page directly.
dylan604 5y ago
yeah, so he's a bad boss. that in and of itself is not a crime. I get it. People are pissed off about not having a job and the no severance is just salt in the wound. Lashing out at the CEO is obvious and justifiable. Stretching that ire into the CEOs personal finance is not serving the cause in a meaningful way. Absolutely, bitch&moan about his Insta posts. Bitch&moan about the fact the CEO wasn't willing to sacrifice some salary as a gesture to offset. Lots of examples of how badly this CEO handled this. Definitely will not look good in his future CEO job interviews.
- zacharycohn 5y ago
  It's not just about him spending money. It's about him clearly not doing everything he can to fix the situation. When you're buying a boat and spending all your time sailing as you are supposed to be putting together a deal to save the company, and then that deal falls through, people are going to wonder if maybe there was more you could have done if you hadn't been buying boats and playing.
  - thih9 5y ago
    The "doing everything [you] can to fix the situation" won't work if the other party isn't interested. For all we know, this may have been the case. And there are many valid reasons for someone to focus on their personal life. My point is, we don't have the full picture.
    - Apocryphon 5y ago
      His personal life came at a cost of a hundred people’s personal lives.
- nicoffeine 5y ago
  It absolutely is. When your boss asks for overtime and weekends to support the company in a startup culture, they take the most valuable thing any of us has. The exchange is about more than money and time: they are also expected to pour their time and effort into this one idea with similar, if not equal, sacrifices. They sink or swim with you. This putz was too cowardly to lead honestly, and too incompetent to get a deal done to protect the livelihood of his team. If he knew he was checked out, he could have explored restructuring and letting the team buy in, maybe allowed them to reach out to their network and replace him. Instead all those hours of effort were reduced to nothing while he ran away from his responsibilities. Fuck people like that, and fuck their boats and their Instagram feeds. They steal time away from our families for no benefit to us our society at large.
smsm42 5y ago
Sure, there might be lack of inspiring leadership, but really can you expect a CEO of a failing startup to sell his house and distribute the proceeds between workers? I don't think this is a reasonable expectation, inspiring or not.

jjcon 5y ago

On the other hand morale will never be good among people who see an ig post of a selfie during a tropical storm and try to spin it as: > Carson enjoys a climate-related disaster These people will never experience happiness and high morale

Lightbody 5y ago
Meh. I’m pretty annoyed about over-the-top wokeness too, but this was shit management. It is understandable that people would be furious and thus inclined to amplify every slight.
bendbro 5y ago
They hated jjcon because he told the truth.
- dylan604 5y ago
  forgive for not being cool and hip, but what's a jjcon?
  - bendbro 5y ago
    You're still cool and hip. jjcon is the commenter I responded to
    - dylan604 5y ago
      Doh! I tried searching internet, but not this page directly.

dylan604 5y ago

yeah, so he's a bad boss. that in and of itself is not a crime. I get it. People are pissed off about not having a job and the no severance is just salt in the wound. Lashing out at the CEO is obvious and justifiable. Stretching that ire into the CEOs personal finance is not serving the cause in a meaningful way. Absolutely, bitch&moan about his Insta posts. Bitch&moan about the fact the CEO wasn't willing to sacrifice some salary as a gesture to offset. Lots of examples of how badly this CEO handled this. Definitely will not look good in his future CEO job interviews.

zacharycohn 5y ago
It's not just about him spending money. It's about him clearly not doing everything he can to fix the situation. When you're buying a boat and spending all your time sailing as you are supposed to be putting together a deal to save the company, and then that deal falls through, people are going to wonder if maybe there was more you could have done if you hadn't been buying boats and playing.
- thih9 5y ago
  The "doing everything [you] can to fix the situation" won't work if the other party isn't interested. For all we know, this may have been the case. And there are many valid reasons for someone to focus on their personal life. My point is, we don't have the full picture.
  - Apocryphon 5y ago
    His personal life came at a cost of a hundred people’s personal lives.
nicoffeine 5y ago
It absolutely is. When your boss asks for overtime and weekends to support the company in a startup culture, they take the most valuable thing any of us has. The exchange is about more than money and time: they are also expected to pour their time and effort into this one idea with similar, if not equal, sacrifices. They sink or swim with you. This putz was too cowardly to lead honestly, and too incompetent to get a deal done to protect the livelihood of his team. If he knew he was checked out, he could have explored restructuring and letting the team buy in, maybe allowed them to reach out to their network and replace him. Instead all those hours of effort were reduced to nothing while he ran away from his responsibilities. Fuck people like that, and fuck their boats and their Instagram feeds. They steal time away from our families for no benefit to us our society at large.

smsm42 5y ago

Sure, there might be lack of inspiring leadership, but really can you expect a CEO of a failing startup to sell his house and distribute the proceeds between workers? I don't think this is a reasonable expectation, inspiring or not.