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For those who don't like Metro, the Guardian has the same quote from Cameron: "We are working with the Police, the intelligence services and industry to look at

by jdp23 15y ago

For those who don't like Metro, the Guardian has the same quote from Cameron: "We are working with the Police, the intelligence services and industry to look at whether it would be right to stop people communicating via these websites and services when we know they are plotting violence, disorder and criminality, http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2011/aug/11/uk-riots-day-five-aftermath-live http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2011/aug/11/uk-riots-day-f...

corin_ 15y ago
See my comment - it's not that the quote is wrong, it's that they have misinterpreted it to make it a more interesting story. He's talking about shutting out individuals who are planning crimes - I have no problem if he arrests those individuals, but I also wouldn't want to see an article quoting him saying "peeople planning violence, etc etc will go to prison" followed by a statement that it is unsure whether he means just those people, or the entire country is going to prison.
- ajays 15y ago
  "He's talking about shutting out individuals who are planning crimes - I have no problem if he arrests those individuals,..." Really? So if I were in London and joked about rioting, or "setting stuff on fire", in a private communication with my friends, it would be OK to arrest me even though I haven't done anything? Wow.
  - corin_ 15y ago
    Well sure you can take it to one extreme and say "I could get arrested for making a joke", but I could take it to the other extreme and say "we can never prevent terror attacks because they can't be arrested until after the attack". I'm not a lawyer or a policeman, I've no idea exactly how it works, but I know I would rather murders are prevented than just punished after, and I would rather people planning on setting fire to London are prevented rather than just punished after.
rmc 15y ago
The same quote is on the offical Prime Minister's Office Website http://www.number10.gov.uk/news/pm-statement-on-disorder-in-england/ http://www.number10.gov.uk/news/pm-statement-on-disorder-in-...

by jdp23 15y ago

corin_ 15y ago

See my comment - it's not that the quote is wrong, it's that they have misinterpreted it to make it a more interesting story. He's talking about shutting out individuals who are planning crimes - I have no problem if he arrests those individuals, but I also wouldn't want to see an article quoting him saying "peeople planning violence, etc etc will go to prison" followed by a statement that it is unsure whether he means just those people, or the entire country is going to prison.

ajays 15y ago
"He's talking about shutting out individuals who are planning crimes - I have no problem if he arrests those individuals,..." Really? So if I were in London and joked about rioting, or "setting stuff on fire", in a private communication with my friends, it would be OK to arrest me even though I haven't done anything? Wow.
- corin_ 15y ago
  Well sure you can take it to one extreme and say "I could get arrested for making a joke", but I could take it to the other extreme and say "we can never prevent terror attacks because they can't be arrested until after the attack". I'm not a lawyer or a policeman, I've no idea exactly how it works, but I know I would rather murders are prevented than just punished after, and I would rather people planning on setting fire to London are prevented rather than just punished after.

rmc 15y ago

The same quote is on the offical Prime Minister's Office Website http://www.number10.gov.uk/news/pm-statement-on-disorder-in-england/ http://www.number10.gov.uk/news/pm-statement-on-disorder-in-...