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I think you will find that there is a large set of ways to solve the same problem equally well. So arguing about the best way to solve the problem is a waste of

I think you will find that there is a large set of ways to solve the same problem equally well. So arguing about the best way to solve the problem is a waste of time.

KronisLV 5y ago
In many cases this is only because of unnecessary duplication of languages and frameworks. People wonder about whether they should create their back end in Ruby or PHP. People wonder about whether they should create their front end in Angular or React. People wonder about whether they should use MySQL or PostgreSQL for persistence. They wonder about which of the many OS distributions they should use for hosting their application. But perhaps that's the true waste of time - maybe we shouldn't need multiple approaches to each problem. Maybe we'd only need one, which could then be the sole focus of the industry. The tooling would be incredible if there would be just one workflow to support. The technologies would be tightly integrated, since that's where all of the effort would go. And there could be models built around the language and frameworks to such a level that any usages of antipatterns could be immediately identified and even fixed automatically. If you ask me, the millions of man-hours that have been spent on creating a brittle and fragmented landscape of tools that don't work well and make developer's knowledge obsolete in a few years while also urging people to do CV driven development are the real waste of time. Of course, that's the reality that we live in but maybe for the developers in 500-1000 years it won't be that way.
- mbrodersen 5y ago
  I don’t think having multiple ecosystems is a bad thing. Think about it as a market place where ecosystems compete to attract the attention of developers. A bit like a decentralised economy. While what you are suggesting is the equivalent of a top down centrally planned economy where a dictator will tell everybody what to use. And (I assume) police and punish everybody who doesn’t comply. That doesn’t sound like a good thing.

I think you will find that there is a large set of ways to solve the same problem equally well. So arguing about the best way to solve the problem is a waste of time.

KronisLV 5y ago

In many cases this is only because of unnecessary duplication of languages and frameworks. People wonder about whether they should create their back end in Ruby or PHP. People wonder about whether they should create their front end in Angular or React. People wonder about whether they should use MySQL or PostgreSQL for persistence. They wonder about which of the many OS distributions they should use for hosting their application. But perhaps that's the true waste of time - maybe we shouldn't need multiple approaches to each problem. Maybe we'd only need one, which could then be the sole focus of the industry. The tooling would be incredible if there would be just one workflow to support. The technologies would be tightly integrated, since that's where all of the effort would go. And there could be models built around the language and frameworks to such a level that any usages of antipatterns could be immediately identified and even fixed automatically. If you ask me, the millions of man-hours that have been spent on creating a brittle and fragmented landscape of tools that don't work well and make developer's knowledge obsolete in a few years while also urging people to do CV driven development are the real waste of time. Of course, that's the reality that we live in but maybe for the developers in 500-1000 years it won't be that way.

mbrodersen 5y ago
I don’t think having multiple ecosystems is a bad thing. Think about it as a market place where ecosystems compete to attract the attention of developers. A bit like a decentralised economy. While what you are suggesting is the equivalent of a top down centrally planned economy where a dictator will tell everybody what to use. And (I assume) police and punish everybody who doesn’t comply. That doesn’t sound like a good thing.