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I'd guess less than once a day. There is also a huge gulf between assault/resisting arrest and attempted murder.

by dlp211 5y ago

google234123 5y ago
A police person has to assume that their life is at risk if they are overpowered during an assault since there is a gun involved. Attacking a cop is a life or death struggle - they have to assume you are trying to get their gun.
- IfOnlyYouKnew 5y ago
  By that logic, and seeing how far more people are killed by police than police officers are killed by people, anyone getting arrested would have a better claim to be at risk of death. How much better? According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_law_enforcement_officers_killed_in_the_line_of_duty_in_the_United_States#2020 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_law_enforcement_office..., twenty police officers were killed by assailants in 2020. The list of people killed by the US police isn't a single article, unfortunately. It's a list for every month of every year. Here's January 2019: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States,_January_2019 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforc... It's 93 deaths for that month. For the year, it's 632.
  - google234123 5y ago
    An arrest is not the same as a physical struggle... Anyway, given there are ~10 million arrests a year + 50 million more interactions, and 100s of millions of guns in the US, there's going to be a lot of people that decide to fight back. The fact that people like you are creating a culture were illegally resisting arrest is actually an ethical/political statement contributes to this.
    - Retric 5y ago
      Running away is resisting arrest and doesn’t endanger the cop. It’s shocking how you moved the goalposts from death, to conflict, to running away as justification for death. Also, if your comparing numbers cops successfully kill around a thousand people per year and attempt to kill significantly more. Talking about number of interactions let alone guns is a meaningless number.
      - google234123 5y ago
        That's actually evading arrest - not the same thing. My point is that if you try and fight someone with a gun, don't be surprised if something bad happens.
        marcellus23 5y ago
        People whose jobs are to protect the public should have a higher bar for acceptable behavior than "someone with a gun"
- Retric 5y ago
  Sounds like US cops should avoid carrying a gun to stay safer.

I'd guess less than once a day. There is also a huge gulf between assault/resisting arrest and attempted murder.

by dlp211 5y ago

I'd guess less than once a day. There is also a huge gulf between assault/resisting arrest and attempted murder.

A police person has to assume that their life is at risk if they are overpowered during an assault since there is a gun involved. Attacking a cop is a life or death struggle - they have to assume you are trying to get their gun.

IfOnlyYouKnew 5y ago
By that logic, and seeing how far more people are killed by police than police officers are killed by people, anyone getting arrested would have a better claim to be at risk of death. How much better? According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_law_enforcement_officers_killed_in_the_line_of_duty_in_the_United_States#2020 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_law_enforcement_office..., twenty police officers were killed by assailants in 2020. The list of people killed by the US police isn't a single article, unfortunately. It's a list for every month of every year. Here's January 2019: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States,_January_2019 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforc... It's 93 deaths for that month. For the year, it's 632.
- google234123 5y ago
  An arrest is not the same as a physical struggle... Anyway, given there are ~10 million arrests a year + 50 million more interactions, and 100s of millions of guns in the US, there's going to be a lot of people that decide to fight back. The fact that people like you are creating a culture were illegally resisting arrest is actually an ethical/political statement contributes to this.
  - Retric 5y ago
    Running away is resisting arrest and doesn’t endanger the cop. It’s shocking how you moved the goalposts from death, to conflict, to running away as justification for death. Also, if your comparing numbers cops successfully kill around a thousand people per year and attempt to kill significantly more. Talking about number of interactions let alone guns is a meaningless number.
    - google234123 5y ago
      That's actually evading arrest - not the same thing. My point is that if you try and fight someone with a gun, don't be surprised if something bad happens.
      - marcellus23 5y ago
        People whose jobs are to protect the public should have a higher bar for acceptable behavior than "someone with a gun"
Retric 5y ago
Sounds like US cops should avoid carrying a gun to stay safer.