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> bad etiquette to write a comment like that I guess I don’t understand the standard for etiquette. One of the first comments of an announcement by Cloudflare

> bad etiquette to write a comment like that I guess I don’t understand the standard for etiquette. One of the first comments of an announcement by Cloudflare is by an employee of Cloudflare publicly calling it “peddling bullshit” with no additional context to what or why. It’s not fair to the authors and the people who are working on this. Calling another researcher and team’s work “bullshit” in a forum highly trafficked by the CEO and CFO and then saying you will raise it internally, is not “raising it internally” but “slandering it publicly” and flexing your high value / can’t touch this employee muscles at everyone else. It’s a giant middle finger to the company and teams from a jerk employee. Cloudflare is one of my favorite companies to follow, but I had no idea how toxic it was working there for some. Definitely enlightening.

pornel 5y ago
That was my raw reaction. I wouldn't speak up publicly if it was merely some weak technology or overhyped product. Such things would be fixable, and at worst only affect people who use them. Blockchains are way worse than that. I think PoW cryptocurrencies are way past any benefit of the doubt, are actively harmful on a large scale, and any promotion of them is shameful. Cloudflare crossed the line here. For Cloudflare this may be just yet another marketing and SEO piece, but it is giving legitimacy of a large tech company to the blockchain nonsense. People researching the buzzwords are going to see that a successful company powering a big chunk of the actual Web says "Web3" and NFTs are legitimate. This blog post is going to end up in a thousand pitch decks for more buzzword-salad ponzi-scheme tokens, and drive even more coal-purchasing fiat money into the massive waste of energy and silicon. The future of the Web may very well be in p2p and content-addressable protocols, and Cloudflare is likely to be exploring it, but it's absolutely irresponsible to even suggest PoW blockchains to be any part of it.
- phpnode 5y ago
  Thank you for speaking up for what is right.
- WORMS_EAT_WORMS 5y ago
  > Cloudflare crossed the line here Oof, your dev god complex... This isn’t complicated or hard to break down. Nothing you just said and nothing about the technology is an excuse for your behavior. I have seen many great devs but the best ones are humble and nice. You my friend are a clueless jerk. You owe the authors an apology: - Thibault Meunier - In-Young Jo And everyone else on the team at Cloudflare. I can’t imagine this is the first time has been difficult or confrontational working with or around you. What is “bullshit” is you able to dance this disrespectful behavior publicly in front of eastdakota and jgrahamc without repercussion. It is not fair to all the awesome hard working people at Cloudflare. Edit: This isn’t my fight though. I am done commenting.
  - pornel 5y ago
    You focus only on the tone and the dirty word, and extrapolate grandiose judgements based on that. But you're completely ignoring there is no better way to describe "Web3" than "bullshit", and the fact that it was disrespectful to dupe readers of otherwise reputable high-quality blog into the blockchain mania.

pornel 5y ago

That was my raw reaction. I wouldn't speak up publicly if it was merely some weak technology or overhyped product. Such things would be fixable, and at worst only affect people who use them. Blockchains are way worse than that. I think PoW cryptocurrencies are way past any benefit of the doubt, are actively harmful on a large scale, and any promotion of them is shameful. Cloudflare crossed the line here. For Cloudflare this may be just yet another marketing and SEO piece, but it is giving legitimacy of a large tech company to the blockchain nonsense. People researching the buzzwords are going to see that a successful company powering a big chunk of the actual Web says "Web3" and NFTs are legitimate. This blog post is going to end up in a thousand pitch decks for more buzzword-salad ponzi-scheme tokens, and drive even more coal-purchasing fiat money into the massive waste of energy and silicon. The future of the Web may very well be in p2p and content-addressable protocols, and Cloudflare is likely to be exploring it, but it's absolutely irresponsible to even suggest PoW blockchains to be any part of it.

phpnode 5y ago
Thank you for speaking up for what is right.
WORMS_EAT_WORMS 5y ago
> Cloudflare crossed the line here Oof, your dev god complex... This isn’t complicated or hard to break down. Nothing you just said and nothing about the technology is an excuse for your behavior. I have seen many great devs but the best ones are humble and nice. You my friend are a clueless jerk. You owe the authors an apology: - Thibault Meunier - In-Young Jo And everyone else on the team at Cloudflare. I can’t imagine this is the first time has been difficult or confrontational working with or around you. What is “bullshit” is you able to dance this disrespectful behavior publicly in front of eastdakota and jgrahamc without repercussion. It is not fair to all the awesome hard working people at Cloudflare. Edit: This isn’t my fight though. I am done commenting.
- pornel 5y ago
  You focus only on the tone and the dirty word, and extrapolate grandiose judgements based on that. But you're completely ignoring there is no better way to describe "Web3" than "bullshit", and the fact that it was disrespectful to dupe readers of otherwise reputable high-quality blog into the blockchain mania.