> Supervisory managers brandishing Agile + endless meetings I've never understood why programmers in these kinds of environments don't shop around. (Acknowled

> Supervisory managers brandishing Agile + endless meetings I've never understood why programmers in these kinds of environments don't shop around. (Acknowledgement that in our industry we're immensely privileged to be able to do this, but emphasizing that it is very doable) I've had four different tech jobs, and none of them have been like the one described here. At most of them we've done "casual agile" where we do standup and tickets and sometimes a retro or planning meeting, but we don't take any of it too seriously. At my current job (and my previous two) my product manager acts as a filter from upper management, negotiating and processing requirements into a form that we can handle and work with. My engineering manager (and my previous one) checks in on my mental health and makes sure I'm neither under- nor over- utilized. At one point I tried to work late on something and they gently asked me not to. I've been asked at several junctures whether I'm happy with what I'm working on or would be more happy doing a different kind of task (happy == motivated == productive and not burning out). All of my engineering managers have also previously been engineers. Both my prod and engineering managers (and again, my previous ones) act as team members who have their own responsibilities; there is no hubris or lording around or micro-managing. The only time I've experienced that was at a past job when I temporarily didn't have any managers and reported directly to the CEO. Now, none of these have been FAANGs. All but one were two digits of employees; the current one is by far the biggest at ~200. Despite that they've all paid quite well. Probably not on the same level as FAANG, but enough for a very good quality of living with plenty left over even in a skyrocketing tech hub. I guess my point is: it can be so much better. As a developer today you're in a hyper-privileged position. Take advantage of it and find somewhere you can be happy. You probably don't have to burn it all down to do so.