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> I cant really say why, but I feel I dont want to interact with groups which need rules like these. Asking in good faith here: is it possible your political

> I cant really say why, but I feel I dont want to interact with groups which need rules like these. Asking in good faith here: is it possible your political mindset (wrt your opinions on CoC) is affecting your ability to relate to others in a context completely unrelated to CoC? The way I see CoC is that, whatever might be in a CoC, does not affect 99% of people 100% of the time and does not affect the remaining 1% still 99% of the time. Yes, it causes conflicts sometimes. You can agree or disagree on a particular CoC and that's fine by me. What I have difficulty understanding is some mentality that what's written in a CoC could directly lead to wanting to not interact with groups or go to conferences; the people in the conference are more real than the CoC itself is, and the people presumably are the same before and after the CoC is written!

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koschei 5y ago
Some years ago a woman used peer pressure to get me drunk, she lied about how strong the alcohol was, she used her superior strength and health to force herself on me while being covered in the fluids of another person. I didn't have the guts of contacting authorities because I live in a country that has laws tilted in favor of women. (Which I will not discuss but in general woke people have succeeded into bluffing everyone that this can't be real) When I tell this story, woke people have said to me absolutely horrible things that align with the whole "men can't be abused". From "it was a good opportunity for you to learn" to "well, actually the reason you didn't come out is male fragility" completely erasing my voice. If we are trying to be inclusive, it will never include me if woke people are allowed to use their language to shape rules. NEVER. I will not feel safe around them because the risk of being abused as a man and these people not doing anything, or enjoying it, or even supporting my aggressor in a misguided attempt to correct years of perceived injustices in the past is non negligible. I don't see any scenario where a female contributor harasses me and the woke moderators eject the woman. In fact, I see all the roads pointing to the female contributor claiming I was the harasser after harassing me and moderators blindly believing her part claiming they looked at the evidence behind curtains to protect the victims. This isn't conjecture on my part, you can see several CoC kerfuffles where the rules didn't apply to the woke tribe.
mlang23 5y ago
To answer your question, I believe no. My experience as a person with a disability is that whenever things were written down in rigid rules, humanity was lacking during execution of said rules. Whenever I was able to make things up on the spot with the people around me, I felt safe and OK. Besides, I am wondering, does your choiceof screenname here imply something? Mockery perhaps? Or do you show up in this discussion with such a screenname totally by accident?

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koschei 5y ago

Some years ago a woman used peer pressure to get me drunk, she lied about how strong the alcohol was, she used her superior strength and health to force herself on me while being covered in the fluids of another person. I didn't have the guts of contacting authorities because I live in a country that has laws tilted in favor of women. (Which I will not discuss but in general woke people have succeeded into bluffing everyone that this can't be real) When I tell this story, woke people have said to me absolutely horrible things that align with the whole "men can't be abused". From "it was a good opportunity for you to learn" to "well, actually the reason you didn't come out is male fragility" completely erasing my voice. If we are trying to be inclusive, it will never include me if woke people are allowed to use their language to shape rules. NEVER. I will not feel safe around them because the risk of being abused as a man and these people not doing anything, or enjoying it, or even supporting my aggressor in a misguided attempt to correct years of perceived injustices in the past is non negligible. I don't see any scenario where a female contributor harasses me and the woke moderators eject the woman. In fact, I see all the roads pointing to the female contributor claiming I was the harasser after harassing me and moderators blindly believing her part claiming they looked at the evidence behind curtains to protect the victims. This isn't conjecture on my part, you can see several CoC kerfuffles where the rules didn't apply to the woke tribe.

mlang23 5y ago

To answer your question, I believe no. My experience as a person with a disability is that whenever things were written down in rigid rules, humanity was lacking during execution of said rules. Whenever I was able to make things up on the spot with the people around me, I felt safe and OK. Besides, I am wondering, does your choiceof screenname here imply something? Mockery perhaps? Or do you show up in this discussion with such a screenname totally by accident?