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I am a strong believer in PWAs. I think most of the apps I use could be PWAs without a problem. I really don't get why Apple isn't developing them for MacOS, si

I am a strong believer in PWAs. I think most of the apps I use could be PWAs without a problem. I really don't get why Apple isn't developing them for MacOS, since I've never really used the app-store on MacOS and in comparison to iOS a lot of the apps on my Mac are productivity apps that are basically electron-apps. I think some basic PWA functionality on the desktop would be more interesting for me than more advanced PWAs for ios.

jdavis703 5y ago
I want to believe in PWAs. But in the real world they are just way too clunky. I’ve observed this on both software I’ve written, and on PWAs from teams that should objectively know what they’re doing like Google Calendar.
atatatat 5y ago
PWAs lead to the walls of Apple's walled garden being torn down. They'll fight it with subtlety until the end, and I hope they burn in hell for it.
- blauditore 5y ago
  Exactly. They introduced auto-deletion of localStorage under the hood of "privacy", when it was really about driving people to building standalone apps (and use their store).
  - breakfastduck 5y ago
    Good. PWAs are absolutely awful compared to native apps.
    - catlifeonmars 5y ago
      What don’t you like about PWAs?
breakfastduck 5y ago
Because native apps are basically a huge chunk of the appeal to using macOS and PWAs are the absolute antithesis of that. Encourage developers to make apps that all look/feel completely different in terms of style/UX - no thanks.
- LeanderK 5y ago
  it's not working at all. I currently use vscode, jupyter lab and Slack. They are all not native. I can't see myself switch. I use some native apps and they are great and all, but to be honest I don't care. I want a good user experience and not technical details what's behind the hood of the UI. I also feel like the stance is pointless since electron apps are here to stay and it just makes the experience of everything worse.
  - breakfastduck 5y ago
    It's not about whats behind the hood. It's about a consistent UX & performance. Honestly VS Code is one of the best electron apps available and it still feels clunky compared to basically any native macOS app.

jdavis703 5y ago

I want to believe in PWAs. But in the real world they are just way too clunky. I’ve observed this on both software I’ve written, and on PWAs from teams that should objectively know what they’re doing like Google Calendar.

atatatat 5y ago

PWAs lead to the walls of Apple's walled garden being torn down. They'll fight it with subtlety until the end, and I hope they burn in hell for it.

blauditore 5y ago
Exactly. They introduced auto-deletion of localStorage under the hood of "privacy", when it was really about driving people to building standalone apps (and use their store).
- breakfastduck 5y ago
  Good. PWAs are absolutely awful compared to native apps.
  - catlifeonmars 5y ago
    What don’t you like about PWAs?

breakfastduck 5y ago

Because native apps are basically a huge chunk of the appeal to using macOS and PWAs are the absolute antithesis of that. Encourage developers to make apps that all look/feel completely different in terms of style/UX - no thanks.

LeanderK 5y ago
it's not working at all. I currently use vscode, jupyter lab and Slack. They are all not native. I can't see myself switch. I use some native apps and they are great and all, but to be honest I don't care. I want a good user experience and not technical details what's behind the hood of the UI. I also feel like the stance is pointless since electron apps are here to stay and it just makes the experience of everything worse.
- breakfastduck 5y ago
  It's not about whats behind the hood. It's about a consistent UX & performance. Honestly VS Code is one of the best electron apps available and it still feels clunky compared to basically any native macOS app.